joining me, actor bertty carvel, songwriter tim minchin, play wright dennis kelly and director matthew warchus. >> your technique as an actor is to seem to be spontaneous and you always want to get back to the moment in the rehearsal when you had the idea the first time and everybody sat forward in their chair. and so there are all these techniques that one uses to sort of trick yourself into thinking things freshly. and because the kids don't have as much technique-- although they work incredibly hard and they're incredibly well trained and they perform sort of dizzying choreography-- but in terms of their acting there's a sort of slightly -- like sometimes they'll kind of start twitching an eye or they're -- their attention will wander in a sort of wonderful way that gives them -- everybody watching you know that they're really there. >> rose: and from theater to tennis, a conversation with jimmy connors. >> giving up everything and the putting your whole life's blood into trying to be what you want to become and what happens along the way as you're trying to become that and detours

joining me, actor bertty carvel, songwriter tim minchin, play wright dennis kelly and director matthewchus. >> your technique as an actor is to seem to be spontaneous and you always want to get back to the moment in the rehearsal when you had the idea the first time and everybody sat forward in their chair. and so there are all these techniques that one uses to sort of trick yourself into thinking things freshly. and because the kids don'tave as much technique-- although they work incredibly hard and they're incredibly well