tim neftali said i'm not changing anything or i'll quit. so, again, i thought it was a very good exhibit. but right now they're still going through that. and they're planning to put some exhibits together. they don't have a director. i don't think they want a director. >> was it as much fun as it seems to be now in the re-telling? >> yes. i was nervous the very first day because i had read many of -- i'd read books where people do these trips and on the first day they talk about how great they feel and just thumbing their noses at everyone outside their car because they're going to work and you're taking this trip. so i started the trip and i feltner -- felt nervous. it's like how women are supposed to get the instinct to clean the house before they have their baby. i thought i would have this calm. and then it occurred to me, they all got advances. so, that is probably the difference. yes, sir. [inaudible question] >> in accumulating papers. would you consider that to be a presidential library? >> i consider it's presidential library. it's