tim newman, who moved to the berkshires in 2002 and opened a small cafe, says people leave the region, in part, because of a lack of connectivity. >> it's bad for real estate values, it's terrible for economic development, it is unfair as far as education is concerned. >> reporter: susan crawford, director of harvard's berkman center for internet and society, says in 21st century america, being on the wrong side of the digital divide can be devastating for economic growth. >> the risk of not treating our rural areas well when it comes to high-speed internet access is that they become even more hollowed out than they already are, that their population just vanishes, that they are no longer sustainable places to live. who would buy a house today without high-speed internet access? why would you do that? and so you're leaving these places and their property values at tremendous risk of simply collapse. >> reporter: western massachusetts residents often resort to dial-up phone lines or satellite dishes for their online access, which offer download speeds starting around five megabytes per

tim most famous butch cassidy andnd the sun dance kid as well as tha sting with his co-star paul paul newmanfunny story about being mistaken for paulaul newman one time. we also talk about his careeree and the idea of magic and how it factored in.or this is one of the biggest the t honors of my life to sit across from robert read for.dor watch this.his. >> there's a great scene in thee film you have a dialogue where a you talk about the first time you met the dragon and you say s that there was a magic in that moment.. >> yes. >> that magic changed the wayhew you viewed the world.or it affected you the rest of youy life the way you viewed things.g i'm wondering do you have aave a moment like that in your ownr life where something thatetng t essentially changed the way youy saw live and the way you saw s things? >> i did. i did. did it came to me in way that made m me realize how important the word was because if you grow up in -- the neighborhood i grew uu in was, um, very lower working class so there was not much --uc there was no entertainment.inme you had to walk to theater.ater didn't ha