lynn caldwell, tim o'brien, joyce vance, thank you all so much. when we come back, el paso, texas, has declared an official state of emergency over an increase in migrants crossing the border. the city manager is here on the crisis and what happens if the trump era immigration law is lifted. then later, who is republican congressman elect george santos? even he apparently does not know, or is not telling us he is accused of faking, basically his entire resume. the 11th hour is just getting underway on a really busy tuesday night. tuesday night "puss in boots" has been nominated for best animated movie of the year. ha! ha! and it takes the "shrek" franchise to exciting new places. i am on my last life. it will strike a chord with movie goers of all ages. when you only have one life, that's what makes it special. rated pg. only in theaters. >> there is another round tonight in the legal battle over trump era border restrictions known as title 42. the biden administration and border towns are bracing for a significant increase in migrants trying to g

and tim o'brien, senior executive editor at bloomberg opinion and an msnbc political analyst. u both very much for coming to "the reidout." tim, i think it's interesting that we have now, we saw reporting in real time, but now we have it in the report, of blanket pardon trump wanted a blanket pardon for people who were involved in january 6th. you are an attorney. you know that, you hear that, it's an official government report what do you think that does over at doj >> well, people don't seek pardons unless they think they have committed a crime and if the president of the united states is seeking a pardon for several to a multitude of people in his own administration, it suggests he was worried he committed a crime or the people around him may have committed a crime or the people around him may be able to testify against him in a court of law it's also interesting that his own attorneys advised him not to do this because i think it suggests guilt i don't think it should surprise anybody that trump sought to do that i don't think it should surprise anybody that people in his o

tim o'brien is executive editor of bloomberg president bush. charles coleman is a former prosecutor and an msnbc legal analyst. and ari melber is host of "the beat." so ali, furs to you here. what do we know about what we'll be getting tomorrow? >> reporter: tomorrow is going to be a chapter of the final report. what's really important are the transcripts and other related documents that the committee worked so hard to get and now will be able to read through ourselves. at various points in the executive summary, they point people to compare the transcripts of key people. for large reason they think in some cases, there are people who either department tell them as much as they knew or were contradict bid other people in their orbit. that's one of the threats we're following. i can put up for you on the screen some of the other questions that we think could be answered buzz that second bullet point is the one we were talking about. people who weren't forthcoming. there's the potential for the key former secret service agent and member of presid

. >> tim o'brien, charles, thank you both very much for comin to the readout next in the rideau, the suprem court is - covid restrictions as texa governor tells migrants ther is no room at the and on a frigid christmas eve we are back after this >> today, the u.s. supreme court ruled that the trump era covid policy that allows borde officials to turn away asylu seekers otherwise known as title 42 will remain in effect for the time being the court voted 5 to 4 to gran an emergency request by 19 republican state attorneys general who filed a last-ditch request to keep the policy i place, with justice neil gorsuch joining the course three liberal justices i voting against the state request. one of the state's petitioning to keep title 42 in place wa texas. who's governor greg abbott warned of total chaos, and spent the holiday weeken nothing of the cruelty, and ye another stunt. for them segers on the street, in front of the home of vice president harris on the nigh before christmas but 140 migrants including children arrived in d.c. fro texas in 18-degree weather lat saturday, somewher

joining me now and joining me now tim o'brien at bloomberg opinion. do you remember when he stood next to that table full of folders and claim that he was this entangling himself and businesses are refused to let reporters examine the documents? after three and a half years the house committee finally won the battle to get trump's taxes. and the question is how they already lost the war tim? >> i don't think necessarily that they lost the, were i think they remember about donald trump standing next that table alex is that he did not really disentangle him self from his businesses either. he put his two eldest sons in charge of the business along with his accountant who hasn't been indicted for financial fraud. so we never really authentically distance himself from his businesses while he was in the white house. and he said numerous times on the campaign trail, in 2016 that he were to release his taxes and he never did. i think it's just the standard measure of good government, whether a republican or democrat that people in power should be transparent

tim o'brien, you are the guy who knows trumps's taxes best, what do you think tonight? >> i think that, you know, stephanie, just a reading of the report that they put out tonight, what they are documenting tonight it's a massive failure, from the textures of 2015 to 2020, a period during which donald trump was subject to mandatory audits. by the irs, mandatory autos came into existence during the nixon presidency as a way to ensure that there was an automatic audit at the irs that a president could not interfere with. and the sitting president had to be audited as required by law. lo and behold, we see that the irs overseen by trump appointees, not only failed to carry out those audits, but i actively battled efforts by the congress to carry out its proper and designated oversight duties. i think that one of the other start things that is in the summary that came out tonight is that there is about $300 million in deductions that appeared to be improperly taken by the trump organization, and related business entities the house ways rates questions about those, and chari

for more on this i'm joined by tim o'brien now, -- he is an msnbc political analyst. the author of the book trump nation, the art of being the donald. tim -- pardon me, i wanted to bring you in for the other side of the equation. donald trump of the equation. this guy, donald trump, for the last few weeks has been staring down the barrel of the january six invigoration, jack smith booking of the january six investigation, the parallel department of justice investigation. mar-a-lago, his company is being found guilty in new york state, the georgia investigation. there is a lot of stuff closing in on donald trump today. he likes to pretend he doesn't care about this stuff. maybe part of the not caring is declaring he's gonna run for president. what is going on with donald trump right now? >> i think donald trump completely recognizes he has existential france in front of him, ali. i think there is this myth that has developed around rump that he is gave everything that he can't be touch he not only have nine lives but he has 18. the reality is he has never had these inte

for more now on the 16 repor fall, out joining me we have tim o'brien, executive edito at bloomberg and - harry lippman former u.s attorney and host of the talking feds podcast two of my favorites, good to see both, here thank you for joining me, tim, here we are two years after the attack o the capitol, is there anything that jumped out at you fro this 100 - 800 page when he, mitt or th new trove of testimony tha trump last night that coul truly alter public or politica opinion? >> well, i don't know how much of it will alter public opinio i think the main themes, alex, we're pretty baked i throughout the last year o testimony and the executiv summary we got on monday, an there is much more luminous an detailed accounts of wha occurred is a very important that all of us become part o the public record it i important for historical reasons obviously but i thin there are new threads fo investigators and prosecutor to pursue, i think one of th most glaring things that comes out of this report is cassid hutchinson's testimony in term of what is new i think the overarching idea that trump w

. >> tim o'brien, man, that is a fitting -- that is a fitting summation of the situation we find ourselves being with us. we're keeping tim miller, i still want to hear more from that arizona meeting with tim. and kari lake. and, donna, you're sticking around, too. for the next story, a wild one. this is a wild tale, a soon to-be republican congressman who may have fooled just about everyone. there are calls for an ethics investigation. we'll explain the whole thing. that's coming up, right after this. this you can plan on me. please have snow and mistletoe. and presents on the tree. right now all over the country kids at shriners hospitals for children are able to go home and be with their families for the holidays. and that's only possible because of the monthly donations from people like you. thanks to a generous donor every dollar you give can help twice as many kids like me and have double the impact. with your gift of just $19 a month, only $0.63 a day. we'll send you this adorable love to the rescue blanket as a thank you. and a reminder of the care you'll be providing so kids can b

whose work covering his finances earned her and her colleagues at "the times" a pulitzer prize and tim o'briene of the rare people on planet earth until now who had seen any of donald trump's taxes back in the day. suzanne, i want to throw up just real quickly, for the normal people out there, the biggest -- what did trump make? that's what people want to know, and we've got so much going on in the last couple of days. 2015, 31 million, 2016, 32 million, 2017, 12, 2818, 24 million, apparently in 2020 -- i guess a couple of these others were loss years, in the red. a loss of 31 million in 2015, a loss in 32, i didn't see the red ink there. i'm color blind. makes 4 million in 2019 loses money again in 2020, and the income taxes, boy, 641,000 in 2015, then you got these streaks, we talked about this on the air the other day, 750 bucks, that's it, nearly a million dollars in '18. 133,000 in 2019, and then that big goose egg in 2020. you know, i remember the one jobs report on barack obama when there was zero jobs. it can't just be zero. zero seems impossible. what you have learned? we saw you righ

tim o'brien is an expert. as a generalization, we are missing in action.eive immediate scrutiny? >> there was only one person dedicated to this. there was a busy week in washington. lawmakers start to smell the jet fuel. this will be picked up next year and it will be interesting because he will have a divided congress. what the chair of the committee is pushing for is that the irs should be going through their tax returns. lisa: this is possibly why volodymyr zelenskyy is coming to make sure that crane is on the agenda. how receptive are republicans to that message? >> we have heard from mitch mcconnell who says he wants to continue, going into mitch mcconnell's office, all before making this shocking and unprecedented trip. he is coming to washington dc to potentially help on the house side. we heard he was expected to be speaker of the house. you had individuals on the fringe side of the republican party being very disparaging about zelinski. really being disparaging about his visit to not only the white house. this is his plea in person. already trying

attorney, now law professor at the university of michigan, and tim o'brien, executive editor, both are got to deal with the irs first. what sort of questions do you have, barbara mcwade, either ethical or legal about the irs? >> i want to know why this audit wasn't conducted. they're supposed to conduct an audit every year of every president. that's the audit program. it's existed every year since the presidency of richard nixon. the reporting indicates it was because of the aggressive pushback and it seemed like it was going to be too big of a hassle. they shrugged their shoulders and moved on. i want to know, was this mere incompetence or was there something more nefarious going on. those are the questions that need to be asked of the irs. >> we have a constellation of public-facing data points. we haven't cracked the code yet. but we have these extraordinary audits of andrew mccabe and jim comey that paint a disturbing perception problem for the irs, barbara. >> yeah, you know, the irs is supposed to be non-political. it's supposed to be even handed in its administration of its work