another one of my colleagues, tim o'bryan was threatened by the president, but when it came to a legal case, he wasn't able to produce those. >> he was bluffing. >> right. a bluff. you know, a posturing. so that's the theory going around right now around the white house and around those, that it was a bluff and it was a way to either some may say intimidate, some may say threaten but to send a message directly to james comey. >> david, just with your intelligence background, what's your reaction to all of this? >> with today's tweets, he's actually send ago different message because he did not just tweet out, i did not make and i do not have the tapes. he had that whole first tweet, which was a disclaimer, a caveat, saying, well, there's all this surveillance going on and all this leaking going on and i really don't know if something's out there. i just know that i don't have them now. that's hard to read as anything other than another ball of yarn thrown out for people to chase, or some kind of an attack on the intelligence community or the secret service who surely would not let any