brian: printing any tim pawlenty for president boris becker's any time soon?> we should be working more on the here and now before we think about 2012. brian: you are not firmly saying no? >> i am not ruling anything in or out. i do not know what i will be doing in three years. brian: if i see you at the local mall, we will do some lawn bowling. thank you very much, governor. tim pawlenty, governor of minnesota. 32 and counting, you thought that the soccer fish was bad? wait until you hear what the california water czar will do. brian: the white house do now has more czar's than baskin- robbins has flavors. there they are, it is like the brady bunch * four. times four. the latest one is the california water czar, keeping watch over endangered species like the smelt. mike snyder smells something that is not smet. 32 czars and counting. >> no one in america has ever asked for them, they asked for liberty. any problem in the free market that does not correct itself can be traced back to some form of government involvement. water is no different. classic tragedy,

joining us from minneapolis, republican governor tim pawlenty from minnesota. governor, thank you very much for joining us. >> delighted to do it, becky, even if you do have governor pataki as a co-host, glad to be there. >> thanks a lot, governor pawlenty. >> happy to be here. >> governor, why don't we talk a little about the economy and what it looks like from your state. what is the scene? >> well, minnesota's economy is mirroring what's happening nationally. it's not quite as bad as other states. we're middle of the pack. we've got a big deficit. we finished a legislative session where it's taken care of. the governor u.n. laterally makes cuts. historically in minnesota and most other states we've been spending beyond the rate of growth in the economy, beyond what's responsible, beyond what's sustainable and those chickens are now coming home to roost. >> where are you making those cuts if you can unilaterally make the cuts, where? >> we tried to use priority-based budgeting. every year has some reduction with some exceptions. a lot is health and human servi

tim pawlenty is mentioned as a likely white house hopeful in 2012.t clear that obama care has to be stopped. here is a bit of an interview from a moment ago. >> we have a president in a democrat-controlled congress that is spending out of control. the only to rising faster is chris matthews' man crush on barack obama. we have e to be the party of fiscal discipline. we have to also engage constructively on fixing this health care system. it is broken. we have an education system that is broken. republicans can be the party of solutions, not just complaining. >> one of the things that tim pawlenty that republicans should not support is the idea of a public option. jane: we have about 20 seconds. does he have a health-care proposal that he told you about? >> as the governor of minnesota, he has been involved with health care legislation for quite a bit he is more involved in a subtext spat with mitt romney. they h

tim pawlenty is with us who described as a gop standard in 2012. governor pawlenty thank you for joining me and ann. let me ask it would seem to me that when you went halfway through that's not a great credential for your next job. how could she resist the criticism that hey, if she is elected president she might say the same thing 17 months before the end. >> good to be with you and ann. a couple things first of all governor palin has been a remarkable leader for the state of alaska. she had been fed up with the ethics complaints. she felt she was in the way of progress being made sh so she stepped aside so she could get out of the way of all that do what she wanted to do. it's not the usual path. as you said earlier she is not someone following the usual path. >> i think within the republican party governor palin is widely respected. she has a strong following. i think at this point she could do whatever she wants. i think she is going to have a lot of offers inside and outside public service. >> i would love to have her here at fox news. i think

tim pawlenty says, not quite. you are not buying this. >> this whole health care proposal by president obama is really quite a joke on a number of levels. i think he is scanning the american people. even if you believe that it is only going to tax people over $1 million, what is known to happen is that is only going to cover about 25% of the total cost. the rest will be paid for by saving waste, fraud, and abuse. if you believe that, i have some january teabagging northern minnesota. he is going to expand eligibility, programs, expanding government intervention. it is not going to wear it. -- it is not going to work. neil: i assume that it would not be right to find teatimes. let me get a sense of what republicans do with this. senator jim demand has been targeted for trying to play politics with this. calling this a waterloo moment for the president and an opportunity for republicans. republicans have to be careful on this, do they not? >> you have to be a little careful because if president obama goes to the dem

tim pawlenty, the fiscal and social conservative is a man on the move these days.perience, and he may have political ambitions for higher office. the topic today is health care. carl cameron is in san diego. i was there last week vacationing. what is the gop during there when the debate is in washington? >> this is the grass-roots organization of the republican party nationwide and they're here with the leaders of all 50 states. they are putting together their strategy for blocking what they call obamacare. there will be a vote on a resolution tomorrow. it refers to obamacare and socialism. they plan to attack this for the radio ads and television ads. it will be a nationwide gop blitz arguing that the so-called public option and forcing companies to insure everyone would be a disaster. this resolution essentially argues it is a step toward socialism. gregg: tim pawlenty is the keynote speaker. any idea what he will be talking about? >> yes, he will give remarks in 20 minutes and he will be talking about health care. he said he may be interested in running in 2012.

this is tim pawlenty on the g.o.p. >> they got to be very careful not to agree to things that are goingrty standpoint but from what's going to work and what's not going to work. >> people forget that the republicans have been working with democrats in the u.s. senate while there is great opposition generally speaking with the g.o.p. there are a still few negotiating and it's giving some republicans heart burn, shep. shepard: pretty strong statement coming from this meeting on health care reform, right? >> that's right. tomorrow they will vote on a resolution it is very tough. obama care marching further toward socialism resolution. expected to pass unanimously it says the >> there is a great deal more than that, shep. representatives of the republican national committee from all 50 states and territories expected to pass it almost unanimously tomorrow. shepard: carl cameron reporting life from san diego. new details on michael jackson's autopsy report. the story is breaking right now and it's coming to you next. discover new seafood creations... inspired from around the country at red l

we haven't seen tim pawlenty campaign against her.ll be very easy to drive her numbers into much more negative territory by putting her in a presidential primary campaign. which i hope she joins. it would be a lot of fun. but, you know, she would be up there on the panel with seasoned and experienced debaters and including huckabee, who i think would run rings around her. and i think she would be in trouble very quickly. >> would be fun for us, maybe not so much for her consultants and advisers. some poll numbers also stand out here. 52% of americans feel she is honest. 48% say she shares our values and 47% say she understands their problems. do these numbers make up for a negative? is there some reason for hope there? >> well, there is something to build on there. wi what those numbers say, people, when you talk about her as a person, people like her better. they're more drawn to her as a person than they are as someone who can govern. and her numbers on competent and ability to govern are very low. that's the big problem now in leav

tim pawlenty. meanwhile, senator james inhofe , who has been criticized for his denial of global warming, is calling al franken a clown. he says, he does not mean to be disrespectful, but al franken is a clown. that is what he does for a living. finally, representative henry waxman, chairman of the house energy and commerce commission is in the hospital after fainting tuesday in his los angeles office. today, he is in good spirits and is turning his attention to turning on -- to working on health care reform. those are some of the latest headlines on c-span radio. host: here is our last half-hour in our final test of the morning. we're pleased to welcome edward montgomery, the director of monk -- the director of recovery at the office of autoworkers. what is your job mission? >> my job is to try and bring together people from the communities that have been impacted by the significant decline in the auto industry that has occurred over the coast -- the course of the last eight years, to work with co

is straight out of central casting and i think he could be extraordinarily strong candidate and tim pawlenty and republicans have very, very good candidates and i'm not a democrat that has written republicans off because they had a bad 2008 cycle and demographics and pruns have a real chance to come back in 2012 but i think they have to be riding a good train an sarah palin is certainly not that train. >> jamie: terry a prediction on what you think she'll do next and she has it has nothing do with ethics inquiry that, are -- there are none now and she does have plans to write a book and make some money and move around the country. for other candidates. what is your prediction for what is next, and, also, do you agree with julian about some of the other leaders above sarah palin, in a race down the road? >> i do agree with julian, that there are a chorus of strong voices in the republican party. john thune, and tim pawlentiy being two of them and mitt romney is out there, a nationally known candidate and early front-runner for our 2012 pick if he chose to take it and joins that chorus and i t

people like tim pawlenty or mitt romney who might run in 2012. if she's in the room, it makes it a very different race. >>> vice president joe biden squared off against sarah palin in the vice presidential debate last fall and abc's george stephanopoulos traveling with the vice president asked about sarah palin's sudden resignation today. >> those who have been deeply involved in politics know that at the end of the day, it's really and truly a personal deal. and personal family decisions have a real impact. i'm not going to second guess her. >> she cast her victim of political blood sport in that press conference. is that how you see it? >> no. i respect her decision. and i take her at her word. it had a personal ingredient in it and you have to respect that. >> there will be much more of george's interview with the vice president in iraq tomorrow morning on this week. >>> in the meantime this is joe biden's first trip to iraq. as vice prident. it turned out a poignant ceremony that would make this a fourth of july to remember for biden. david k

. -- tim pawlenty.ing that he will not run next year, leaving his scandal wide open for other things, including potentially a national campaign. he will be speaking and the republican national committee this summer. joining me now is tucker carlson and a democratic pollster. tucker, you do not think that he has the charisma to go all the way? >> he needs to change his story line. it is -- he is a great person, and if he can show attraction from minnesota, that would be great. he just needs to create a narrative about himself. if you google him, the first results are some amusing, embarrassing remarks that he made about his wife. we need to sum him up in one sentence, and he needs to start telling that story this summer. martha: that is probably an interesting exercise for most politicians. when you look yourself up, what comes up first? let us take a look at some of these poll numbers. mitt romney vs. barack obama, and they are even. what do you think of that, bernard? >> obama's poll numbers were in th

>> tim pawlenty was the key speaker, and he has had success in his home state. he is in.t principles, holding costs down long-term. republicans do not support a government takeover of health insurance and prefer to see a limited expansion paid for by taking a lot of pork and waste out of it and mostly dealing with improving the existing employer-based private insurance system that they have had for so many years. tim pawlenty talked about yesterday, saying that is what it would like to see and what they are negotiating for the senate finance committee. they want to make sure. rick: there is a second resolution now, and the question is whether it will diminish power over republican money. >> the chairman of the rnc, michael steele, was elected this spring, the first african- american chairman. he came under criticism, a little loose lips, shot from the hit, and spent a lot of money when he took over the rnc renovating facilities, firing people, making changes. some of the old guard were miffed. so it resolution will come out today saying he cannot make a cosign for the rep

let's take a look at tim pawlenty.ere is what he is saying about health care and the president. >> the health-care proposal is really quite a joke on a number of levels. i think he is skimming the american people. even if you believe that he is only going to tax people over $1 million, what is going to happen is that is only going to cover about 25% of the total cost of the package. the rest is going to be paid for by saving waste, fraud, and abuse. if you believe that, i have some january to begging -- january t * for you. when you look at this, they are concerned to see this as a real opening. >> they see it as an opening because what they imagine is that if president obama is able to get through health-care reform and able to turn around the economy, it is good news for democrats going into not only 2010, but 2012. in terms of responding, it says that the american people pretty much still think that it -- that president bush and the republicans are responsible for the problems with the economy. how long does that la

greta: tonight, does the health- care bill -- governor tim pawlenty. just throw it out. governor pawlenty is here. plus, one democratic congressman says he may have to hire two lawyers to help him read and understand his own party's health-care bill. that is not a good story. you will hear from the congressman himself. and you know about the g-8 and the g-20, but have you heard about the b-3? tehe "b" stands for "beer," and it involves president obama, professor gates, and the officer corps arrested him, officer -- and the officer who arrested him, officer crowley. governor pawlenty is here. the evening, governor. >> good evening, greta. greta: governor, so you have written a letter dated july 27 to the entire minnesota delegation. what have you told them to do or asking them not to do? >> well, greta, i said we should set aside as health-care legislation in congress and work together on those things that are common sense and bipartisan and move the nation forward. we need it. the fundamental promise is that we are going to save money by expanding access to current inter

the current governor tim pawlenty has announced he will not be running next year. norm coleman may be considering it. he says, you know, nothing yet. maybe i want to go fishing. but people in minnesota say if norm coleman wants to rub he could quickly be considered a front-runner next year. >> okay. don't cry for norm just yet. a friend of ours here on saturday and sunday. thanks so much. good to see you. >> thank you, t.j. >>> after unexpectedly stepping down as alaska's governor o sarah palin has taken to facebook to tell us why. she's leaving for in her word as higher calling though she didn't say what her higher calling is. she did have harsh words for those criticizing her. here's what she said. how sad washington and media will never understand it's about country and she goes on to write -- so that is sarah palin on her facebook page. what are you getting? >> let's go right to it. it's over there. we can give you a look. this might be one of the biggest responses i've gotten to anything she's posted. one thing she's currently gearing up for a run in 2012 and

steve: tim pawlenty, the governor of the great state of minnesota. alisyn: remember this guy, mr.ll him bye-bye birdie? steve: at the top of the hour megyn kelly joins us. what's up with you? megyn: i'm so glad you're having mr. clucky on because in kelly's court today we will tell you what happened in court yesterday, show you some footage, and we'll break down his legal rights, so tell that guest to stay tuned for 10:40. endeavour scheduled for a picture perfect landing. watch it live. will you be forced to pay for abortions courtesy of the house health care bill or not? they've made a decision. we've got the shocking update. plus juan williams on the beer bash at the white house, top of the hour. . did you know just one sheet of bounce outdoor fresh gives you more freshness than two sheets of the leading store brand? wow! who knew? bounce... . brian: miami beach is famous for its attraction, mr. clucky. police told his owner, mark buckley, that he could not keep mr. clucky as a pet. yesterday they appealed the decision. steve: with me now is mr. clucky and his owner. good morni

california's arnold schwarzneggar, south carolina's mark sanford, louisiana's bobby jindal, minnesota's tim pawlenti and florida's charlie cyst. those who are attending will focus on the economy and the stimulus. we report from biloxi. >> as the nation's governors meet in biloxi, mississippi, a key element of their deliberations will be federal stimulus dollars and how to improve the economies of their states. >> we participated in the stimulus. it has made -- it's made our fiscal situation better. i wish we had a little more leeway in how we could spend the money. >> mississippi republican haley barbour, who is hosting this year's national governor's association meeting, says the stimulus package is twice as big as it needs to be, which is why he initially opposed the program, but now he says he intends to work with it. the university of southern mississippi economics professor william gunther says the governors have little choice. >> if there is an alternative to keeping us from going into the great, great depression, somebody should come up with it. until then, trying to stimulate the economy the

i think mitt romney, newt gingrich, the rest of thatack will come ater, tim pawlenty is not running for reelection, th's what we all expected her to do. but to up and quitth two weeks' notice like you're, you know, a barrbarista attarbuc? that's ridiculous. please. >> ron, ron, pase give me a ten-cond bet on what her political future is, as e st word for ts segment. >> five yearago there was a ste senator by barack obama on rose to promisinnocee to become the psident of the united states. i think sarah palin over the next several years hasery bright fute. let's t handap 2012. let's let this democratic congress and administratn get the country ck on track. govern palin will do just fine in her political future family fortune >> nice try, r. >> nice try, it's the uth, lawrence. >>up next, how b was yesterday's memorial to chael jackson? how does it stack up to the obama inaugurati? sticaroundor our very big numbernext in the "hardball you're watching "hardbl"nly on msnbc >>> welcome back to ardball." time for the "sideshow." sarah palin's comedic golce ain. her shocking annncement that sh

among the prominent no-shows, republican governors including sarah palin of alaska, tim pawlenty of minnesota, south carolina's mark sanford who opted to take his family on a trip to make ameans for his publicized affair and california governor arnold schwarzenegger. with g.o.p. in both houses of congress i asked mississippi governor haley barber who is leading his party. this time presents opportunities for many republican voices to be heard. >> we'll see the bush administration the last eight years and now they're starting to see different republicans, and that's useful. >> reporter: barber, who's hosting this year's national governor's association conference in biloxi was originally to do so in 2006, that was just a year from when hurricane katrina devastated the mississippi coast. they were still repairing all of the damage. so, it has to be postponed. finally, in 2009, governor barber got to host this conference and sees it as a way of showcasing just how far his state has come. brian. >> brian: jonathan serrie in good lucksy, mississippi. thanks, i want to tell you something we call liv

the governor in question was actually tim pawlenty of minnesota. instead, in our fifth story on the "countdown" senator mccain was actually weeks away from even starting to vet the woman who would join his ticket at the last minute, the once obscure sarah palin, no longer the governor of alaska. mark her down as officially unofficial news. palin handed over the governorship sunday with more than a year left in her term but she did not leave without some measure of fanfare. saying good-bye to alaskans at a series of picnics across the state. in fact, she said a lot more than just good-bye but not much that actually made sense. >> together we do stand with gratitude for our troops who protect all of our cherished freedoms including our freedom of speech, which par for the course, i'm going to exercise. >> former governor palin has developed an odd love/hate relationship with the media. love that network cameras would even be there to see palin resign as they would not have been for any other small state governor leaving office for no good reason. hat

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. >> instead of running next year for a third term as minnesota governor, tim pawlenti will focus on a 2012 white house run and rebuilding the g.o.p.. as the keynote speaker at the republican national committee meeting this week in san diego, he is positioning himself as a leading critic outside washington of the president's healthcare agenda, and compares it to one of the biggest scams in history. >> this is a scheme that would make bernie madoff blush. it ain't going to work. >> this convention is ground zero for opposition to a costly government healthcare takeover. friday, they will vote on a resolution declaring, quote, the members of the republican national committee recognize that obama-care is marching america further towards socialism and urge that it be stopped before it destroys the best medical system the world has known. pawlenti even worries that g.o.p. senate negotiators led by chuck ghastly, in their zeal to cut a deal with democrats may compromise too much. >> they have to be careful not to agree to things that will be counterproductive not just from a party standpoi

cirman of the party, for exampl is that moderates are still rlly getting trashe even people like tim pawlenty, who's sometimes praised as a moderate, when you ask him about it, he said no, d't think being moderate is the future of the republican party we have to b conservative a even more cservative as we have been as yet. but i wonder oderates in the party are really being retively empowered these anls just beuse it's not them who are quittingnd gettg caught schleppin their staffers? >> think that's probably tue but i alsohi we have to be very careful how we use the word moderate. i think sometimes on the left and in the liral media, it doxist, that merate is often a code word for people that talk like i want them to talk or people who agree wit me. and thk that actually pawlenty, t-pa is a fan of i'm okay with it if you are, hes okayit it. he thoug through his consertive ticonserv conservatismism and think that's what lot of reasons have to do. i think dot ask, don't tell is not a conservative policy. conservatives want t best possible for their country. >> on the issue, though e. of how re

party chairman michael steele, as well as to republican governors haley barbour of mississippi, tim pawlenty and puerto rico. stooe steele and all three republican governors declined. and did so through the committee. in other words, they did not individually turn down the invites. the republican party turned down all of them. and in addition to the snub, la raza spokesman said the plum line -- the latino community is open to hearing from both sides, which is why both were invited. the republican party not being here may demonstrate a lack of commitment to our community. in an era of richard nixon, the republican party chose the southern strategy, led as much as msnbc's patrick j. bruuchana as anyone else. the idea was to maximize the standing by stoking the idea that white people needed to stand together against minorities to exploit fear of and resentment of minorities among white people in order to maximize the republican party's share of the white vote and to assume, along the way, that the republican party would never really compete for nonwhite votes. now as the republican party is the

minnesota governor tim pawlenty, who has definite aspirations for 2012, nailed obama on fox news. >>his whole health care proposal by president obama is really quite a joke on a number of levels. i think he's scamming the american people. and just on this payment issue alone. even if you believe that he's only going to tax people over $1 million, which i don't think is true, what's going to happen is he's proposing it, that's only going to cover about one-third or 25% of the total cost of the package. the rest of it is going to be paid for, quote-unquote, by savings, waste fraud, and abuse. if you believe that, i've got january tee times for you in northern minnesota. >> i'll take that tee time, governor pawlenty, if you can guarantee me you've been right in on all these negotiations. get ready for the onslaught of television commercials trying to defeat obama and the health care reform effort. now, they have the money to burn. now they have the time to burn it. because of this delay. what a travesty. harry reid letting the senate go with no deal, they ought to be working through aug

republican national committee is meeting today in san diego getting to know minnesota governor tim pawlenty who is a possible candidate for president in 2012. can pawlenty or anyone win both the nomination that requires base support and then a general election that requires main stream support? >> well, i wonder how well the rnc is going to get to know pawlenty there. i mean, it seems i remember from the last sort of primaries this is a guy who came out against darwin. he's a creationist. there's going to be a pretty hard sell as a presidential candidate somebody who believes so much bunk about science is really going to save our economy. but, you know, yeah. you're right. they're facing the problem, can they get a general audience, can we get a general audience and get the extremes as well? it's interesting, though, isn't it, howard, and you know all about this, that on the republican side they're busily trying to curry favor always with the people at their margins. on the democratic side we tend to kind of run away from the margins even when they represent majority views like the peace vo

people don't know tim pawlenty, the governor of minnesota. if you're looking at republican opposition to president obama as he seeks a second term, you're thinking, oh, sarah palin might be the ticket, but sarah palin has taken away her platform as governor that was giving her the opportunity to respond to critics by developing not only experience, but demonstrating leadership, and, you know, it seems to me then so what's the answer? it has to be money. it has to be she's after book deals. >> she already had a book deal. >> she has a book deal. but she's got to do the book. maybe she wants to give more speeches for more money. i read that nbc might be talking to her about doing a tv show. if that's the case, it's just a star turn. she's got stars in her eyes. it's all about her and the base she wants to appeal to and has success with, which is an evangelical southern base in the republican party, i wonder how they're going to respond to someone who's not reliable, not traditional in terms of fulfilling obligations, being steady. it just doesn

look, she's not going to bt barackbama, but all she has to do is beat tim pawlenty, bobby jindel, huckabee rney. are you sayinghe couldn't beat mitt romney? >> im strongly for her. i endorse her for the repuican nomination in 20. i think she got a real problem with the republicans. they have a survival instinct, and she said yesrday tt she was maybe ing to campaign for consvave democrats. that's because a l of republicandon't want hero campaign for tm. that party ultimatel when you saw it wh john mccain, you saw it with bob dole, th nominate -- they ke the next person in line. i think that's probably mi romney. agree with you. she's got a big baseand i think she might n the nomination. i hope she does. senator mccain just said he agrees with r. he thinks it helps her snding. that's in the best intt of he gng forward. it's okay to resn. >> i think senator mccain in a difficult position. chose her as his nominee. he wants to support her and her family. i was surpsed. i was puzzled. she ught that office. i remember when worked for govern bush, and he decided run for lection as governor of tex

look, she's not going to beat barack obama, but all she has to do is beat tim pawlenty, bobby jindel, mitt romney. are you saying she couldn't beat mitt romney? >> i am strongly for her. i endorse her for the republican nomination in 2012. i think she got a real problem with the republicans. they have a survival instinct, and she said yesterday that she was maybe going to campaign for conservative democrats. that's because a lot of renz don't want her to campaign for hem. that party ultimately, when you saw it with john mccain, you saw it with bob dole, they nominate -- they take the next person in line. i think that's probably mitt romney. i agree with you. she's got a big base, and i think she might win the nomination. i hope she does. >> senator mccain just said he agree with her. he thinks it helps her standing. that's in the best interest of hers going forward. it's okay to resign. >> i my senator mccain is in a difficult position. he chose her as his nominee. he wants to support her and her family. i was surprised. i was puzzled. she sought that office. i remember when i worked

sarah palin comes in second, followed by mike huckabee, newt gingrich and minnesota governor tim pawlentying in our political panel now. eleanor clift, contributing editor for "newsweek" magazine and amanda carpenter, reporter for the "washington post." eleanor, what do you think about these polls? obviously things have a way of changing over the course of three years, but it is fun to sort of prognosticate. are you surprised to see mitt romney up there? >> well, first of all, a lot of this is about name recognition. so i think names that people have heard do rise to the top. but i also think the republican party has a tradition of nominating the person whose turn it is. if you look at the field, mitt romney did make a valiant attempt in the last go-round. seems to me that he does more than any of the others sort of represent the mainstream of his party where he can appeal to both the social conservatives and economic conservatives. i think his mormon religion seems still to be a bit of a hurdle, but actually he delivered a very compelling speech last time around. i think that every year

in the middle box, tim pawlenty elected vice chairman of the republican governors association.ed to rise on the national scene. in the bottom box, weç are winning the white house briefings which have been of great interest lately. we will keep a close eye on that briefing. harris: keep your eyes on the screen. some high drama on during a boat race in washington state. a hydroplane boat was speeding along when is it wipes out, flipping over several times. çincredibly, the driver got out without any serious problems. mike kelly walked away and scratch. he is with us on the telephone. -- away unscratched. tell me what happened, and what was going through your mind? >> we were off to a great start, running in third place. going down the straight way, all of a sudden, the boat went up and there was nothing i could do. before i knew it, i was upside down. the safety council that i was in did its job, and so here i am -- capsule did its job, and so dear i m. harris: i hear you are a new father. what was going through your head? >>ç it was so fast. i thought about my little baby. i

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remember when tim pawlenty said i'm not going to run again? of course. >> most people don't see a difference, a moral difference, between i'm not going to run again and i'm going to leave my job early. i'm just temg you what the folks said this morning. >> sure. >> now, will she be subject to criticism? yes. and also more important, she will now have a vetting process if she's seeking higher office which will be much, much longer than the ad at the time when she was picked for vice president. she could be vetted for three years. can anybody stand the three-year vetting? and it's going to be tough -- there are tomorrow people who have incredible adamance against her. >> it's always an interesting story out of alaska, that is for sure. bill bennett, host of morning in america, we appreciate your insight. we'd love to you stick around as we continue to follow this story as well. bill, thank you. >> thank you. >> we are watching for the president of the united states and also russia to come up very shortly here. we've got a live picture of that. t

you have haley barbour from mississippi, tim pawlenty from minnesota. think you will see as people are more familiar with them and their executive experience and stand on taxes that they are going to come up. so i think it is interesting, this is a rich field and i think that contrary to what i heard earlier i don't think people had a negative feeling about mitt romney after the election. there was some question about his being a mormon and all that. but i think mitt romney has come out with a better reputation, people have a better feeling about him now than they might have had during the 2008 campaign. martha: i'm sure people would be glad to think it is a rich field. some think it not. >> i think that juan is exactly right. i think that there is going to be a lot of fluidity and he makes a good point. viewers should watch the field. it is very flexible. but romney has reversed the image he had about a year ago. martha: it is a land far, far away but everybody has to think about what is coming down the pipeline. it may be tough to be far out front at

wholt problem is i don't think it was a good move because to run for offense you have to do what tim pawlentyon. the whole problem was at the press conference. if she just said these are. so reasons i'm going to step aside. it's easier to run the state if you are not being attacked and better for the people of alaska. i'm going to go fishing and decide in few days i'm what i'm going to do. not such a firestorm. shocked that the announcement was a bad time to do it. that hit her like a ton of bricks. she didn't think it was a problem making the announcement before july 4th. gretchen: she said she did it on the eve of independence dated to show independence. that makes total sense. however, in the media business, we know that if you make an announcement on a friday, you are frying to usually -- holiday weekend you are usually trying not to get a lot of press about it let's face it, she is not a predictable person. so i take her comments at face value that she did it because it was the eve of independence day. brian: on a different note. if you are in a relationship, there is always one guy or g

the republican governors association names tim pawlenty as its vice chair today. the minnesota governor will campaign for republicans in this fall's two gubernatorial contests. president nicolas sarkozy has been discharged from the hospital where he spent the night. his office says the french president's collapse during jogging was due to heat and overwork. >> a health-care bill will not likely seek action in the senate soon. harry reid says it will not occur until the fall. but it is still possible the house could consider a bill before the summer recess. house democratic caucus chairman john larsen plans a meeting today. congressman larsen says scheduling an afternoon in evening meeting will go as long as necessary to answer questions members have. live coverage today includes this morning, president obama, secretary of state clinton, and treasury secretary geithner on u.s. relations with china. they will be joined by their chinese counterparts to talk about opportunities for the two countries. that is live at 9:00 a.m. eastern on c-span-2. live coverage beginni

and note that some of palin's likely or possible opponents, like mike huckabee, bob jindal or tim pawlentysues. >> is there a double standard out there? >> i think there is, but no one has heard of those three. they're not -- >> the governor of louisiana. >> they're not as well known as sarah palin. >> mike huckabe, the former governor. >> the big number this n that poll that stuck with me was that 51% of independent voters have an unfavorable view of her. if you are going to run nationally, you have to get those independent voters to like you and to think you're smart. >> look ahead. what's in store for sarah palin politically in the next year, two years, five years? >> she's going to make a boatload of money over the next year. as she does that, it's going to, i think, trigger a lot of the questions more intensely than ever, because as she makes the money, it will answer the question of why did she resign. she didn't give a good answer. i think a lot of the ethices issues will go away. the idea that we're so bogged down with what you called trivial issues, meanwhile you are pursuing mone

we'll hear from governor tim pawlenty about that, slamming the obama health plan, coming up in news. dow surges past 9,000. what does it mean? dylan ratigan will be here. new poll numbers out on sarah palin. we'll have mike barnicle, carlos watson, harold