democrats themselves just spent six years using it literally to block bills from senator tim scott's police reform to coronavirus relief. and less than four years ago, when it was republicans who held the senate, the house, and the presidency, 27 current democrats plus vice president harris signed a letter insisting this long-standing rule should not be broken. so if the talk of unity and common ground is to have meaning, and certainly if the rules from 20 years ago are to be our guide, then i cannot imagine the democratic leader would rather hold up the power-sharing agreement than simply reaffirm that his side won't be breaking this standing rule of the senate. i appreciate our ongoing good-faith discussions and look forward to finding the solution together. our side takes a great deal of pride in the accomplishments of -- that three consecutive republican senates have delivered for the american people. in 2014, our majority was elected to check and balance the last years of a lame-duck presidency. in 2016, we were reelected to help ignite a real all-american economic comeback, reb

rep fudge: tim scott happens to be a friend. i support and trust tim scott. sen. cotton: as my question -- answer my question. if they care even a little bit about people of color, which i do not think they do, do you believe that he even cares a little bit? rep fudge: i was not talking about all republicans, tim scott clearly is a fine, upstanding senator. sen. cotton: thank you congresswoman. i could go on, there is a long history of, such as this. all of us in public life say things we wish we could take back. if confirmed your going to serve the needs of many republicans as well as democrats and nonpartisan people. i hope in the future you can reflect your best moments and congress and not these. rep fudge: thank you and i do serve people now, republicans and democrats quite well. >> thank you senator cotton, senator menendez. sen. menendez: i will make a comment. if intemperate comments or harsh comments are the standard, i presided as the ranking member of the fort relations committee over an enormous number of individuals who would never have gotten through

fudge: tim scott happens to be a friend. i support and trust tim scott. >> could you answer my question, please? if they cared about people of color, i don't believe they do -- do you believe that? rep. fudge: i was not talking about republicans. tim scott is a fine, upstanding senator. i believe he cares. >> thank you. i could go on. there is a long history of comments like this. if you are confirmed, you will be serving the needs of many, many republicans, democrats, nonpartisan people, and i hope in the future you can serve them in a way that reflects the best comments in the congress and not these comments. rep. fudge: i thank you. i do serve people now, republicans and democrats, quite well. >> thank you. senator? >> thank you. if intemperate comments or harsh comments are the standard, i presided as the ranking member of the senate over individuals who would never have gotten through committee, and certainly republicans overwhelmingly voted for him, and their comments might have been seen in the same context. i underst

on that, senator tim scott, step up.rtainly on covid, and getting the vaccines out quickly, susan collins has always been a leader on health care, and she'll be there again. lisa murkowski, you know, then you also have national security matters, liz cheney, who has always stood up for what she thinks is right, but then also, adam kinzinger and you saw peter meyer, both of these men who are -- who have served in the military, who have a very strong sense of our national security and doing the right thing on that front. so i think it's going to be finding the right partners who want to bring people together. i think we have that. and our party is going to have to move back to ideas and away from a cult of personality. that doesn't mean we want to leave any voter or any constituency behind in this country. we need to bring people together and heal, and i think we're going to have more centrist policies going forward. we're 50/50 in congress and around the country, and that means grown-ups who want to legislate and bring peo

so does tim scott. he is not supporting the challenge effort.e have got ted cruz and josh hawley, possibly donald trump himself, that will be trying to 2020 the bloody flag, that was stolen. and that will be there because in 2024. except that beau biden is the president, and their focus on 2024 will be running with that reality. romaine: we want to bring our viewers some breaking news. the new york stock exchange delisting those three chinese state-owned telecom companies. the decision to the list. the decision not to. weighing reverting back to its original plan to delist those. steve had called the president of the nyse and asked her to reconsider that. the potential rethinking of relisting of the delisting. coming up, could be market nirvana just on the other side of these georgia runoffs? this is bloomberg. ♪ caroline: today, we are focused on the runoff vote being held in remainingr the two senate seats. we have been digging in to some of the writing from wells fargo that this could be good for stocks. a column today on bloomberg opinion ab

for senator tim scott.veryone is yelling " take over the capital," while trump is giving his speech. tim scott thinks it is more divisive to convict him than what trump did. what if mike pence had been killed or nancy pelosi or aoc? it is a whole different story tim scott and these guys. they just want to forget all that happened. they totally lost their soul. especially as a christian, i am really disappointed in tim scott. as evangelicals we have lost our moral credibility. that is my opinion. host: redwood city, california. the former president has established the city in palm beach county where mar-a-lago is located to carry on the agenda of the trump administration through public activism according to a press release. donald trump has the office of the former president he has officially established according to the washington times. should he go on deformed the patriot party -- on to form the patriot party? that is a question for republicans this morning. caller: i think trump should come back. i think

you mentioned, you know, josh a hawley, ted cruz on one side, tom cotton, tim scott on the other, nikkiis going to be, you know, interesting to watch how this plays out and how those groups try and navigate the politics of this. as i mentioned, i think the populism, the national populism, the conversion of the republican party to the party of sort of working class are, working people is real and lasting, expect party has to adapt to that. but it's going to be the ability to also bring back in some of the establishment, sort of country club are republican froms who really sort of went away from donald trump and be able to paper over the differences, you know, both stylistic difference and policy differences and produce a winning message for 2024. i don't know, but i do think what happened this week is going to be sort of a fulcrum point of the republican politics moving forward. gerry: my great thanks to jonah goldberg and tom bevan. thank you both very much indeed. >> thank you. gerry: coming up, as the trump administration comes to an end, there are many lessons that can and should be

south carolina senator tim scott joins me now. welcome. thanks for joining the show.ne of the things that frightens me is kamala harris as the tie-breaking vote. we have the potential to lose everything we fought for. and we'll almost no ability whatsoever given the new rules of the senate to block controversial confirmations. i am sure this concerns you, too. >> you could not have said it better. this is everything we fought for the last four years. president trump standing in the center of the fire himself. we could lose it all if we don't show up on tuesday. president trump made it possible for this country to have the most inclusive economy in my lifetime. he made it possible that we have the most conservative judiciary of all times. we owe it to our past four years and the future that we win in 2021, starting on january 5, this tuesday coming. it's more consequential than anything we have seen in our lifetime from a political perspective. the socialist nightmare comes real wednesday morning if we lose. the great opportunity society continues throughout 2021 if we

. >> reporter: senator tim scott, a top ally of the president's, released a statement saying, quote, there is no constituti constitutionally viable path. as for president-elect biden, he said he is encouraged to see republicans standing up to trump. >> there are enough really decent republicans, you're seeing them step up now in the united states senate, who don't want to be part of this trump republican party. >> and so jon, we know president trump and vice president pence met face-to-face today, but bostbo bottom line tonight, what can the vice president actually do and what can we expect from him? >> reporter: the president believes that the vice president has a power that he just does not have and it's a power that the vice president himself knows that he doesn't have. so, while pence has said nothing publicly, i am told by people close to the vice president that he intends to defy the president, to follow the rules, which means ultimately he will be the one that announces officially that joe biden has won and that is likely to incur the rath of a very angry donald trump. david?

>> tim scott and my politics couldn't be further apart. at least he has good common sense.t want to play politics with this issue tomorrow. i think what we are seeing is a lot of these individuals. the list of senators who are objecting to these particular states, all this is, is a shot across the bow for 2024. whether or not it's josh hawley, ted cruz. all individuals campaigning on our dime and on the floor of the united states senate. the biggest problem, though is that they're campaigning and it's undermining our fundamental tenants of democracy. seems they don't care. rule of law does not matter for these republicans tomorrow lining up. glad there are some republicans like tim scott who i served with in the south carolina state house when a member there, who end of the day, anderson, has good common sense. >> what do you make about what they're doing? obvious play to try to inherent the mantel of trump for the 2024 nomination. arguing that the federal government should be powerful enough to unilaterally disregard the states and disregard the people and choose the presi

>> so, i've actually had this conversation with not just her but also tim scott.in this institution. i am the fourth black person ever popularly elected to the united states senate, after barack obama, who was third, and tim scott, who was the fifth. we have had this conversation. and what i love about kamala-- and really admire about her-- is that she has her feet firmly planted in two places. one is this reference for what had to transpire for her to be the kind of glass-ceiling-breaker she has been every step in her career,ent as the second black woman ever to serve in this institution. that humility she has, understanding all of that. but then she's got her other foot firmly planted in the foothold of this, understanding that i will not be the last. i may be the. >> if but by every way possible, i'm going to make sure that the way gets easier for those who come behind me. and that balance between those two steps of humility and audacious determination are what makes her perfectly rea to be the fir in amerian history. d i know-- and i'm confident in this-- that

i hope we will introduce thursday, didn't get unanimous consent, tim scott, leading the way in the senate monday when she gavels for pro forma session, unanimous consent to do this for family and law enforcement which capitol hill police support fully and can't think of any reason we should not be able to do this. >> can't imagine a congressperson voting no on this, have a great weekend. time is 36 minutes after the hour, a veteran and educator going to the big game. >> the important role just before tom brady and patrick martinholmes go head the head. t. without the commission fees so you can start investing today, wherever you are — even hanging with your dog. so, what are you waiting for? download now and get your first stock on us. robinhood. want to sell the best burger in every zip code? add an employee. or ten... then easily and automatically pay your team and file payroll taxes. that means... world domination! or just the west side. run payroll in less than five minutes with intuit quickbooks. ♪♪ smooth driving pays off you never been in better hands allstate click or call for a q

i hope -- i am encourage lindsey graham and tim scott to get on board.o that point you do have a lot of people in that camp with that support but others who are not, namely tom cotton came out saying he's not going to object to the result saying he's arguing congress has no constitutional authority to overturn the result of the state certified vote so what do you say to someone like him and others in his camp? >> i disagree with him. it is what it is. we have, this is our only avenue. this is the only thing we can do. on the sixth it comes down to us objecting between win by showing the public what went on and we cannot have fried in an election, will turn out to be another venezuela or cuba if we don't fight it and i don't know, i know this, if we do nothing we are definitely not going to win anything or show the people what actually happened on november 3rd. that is our duty. that is the reason we fight and if we don't have an honest election you have a banana republic which i'm not going to let happen. jillian: thank you for joining us, appreciate you

senator tim scott tweeting this is unconscionable and unsafe.ever's decision this was to house our national guard men and women in underground parking lots must be held accountable. the problem has been fixed, troops have been let back in but the point about accountability is interesting because the capital rights on january 6th the capital police facing new acting chief, the permit's first woman, an african-american amid an ongoing crisis. we've not heard back yet this morning. they are issuing a statement on support but didn't account for why the troops were forced out. texas governor abbott says he is bringing his troops home. todd: i will take a step further. this is another example of our nation when troops come home from war, finish a job, throwing them to the side and it makes no sense. it is the exact counter to what you would think we would do when troops come home from a war, from battle, from serving our nation. we should be embracing them in every way possible for their service, for what they have done and yet this is what we do, thi

you have a wide spectrum from tim scott and tom cotton and lindsey graham and marco rubio and otherswho really are questioning the strategy and approach and i think that is the real kind of republican civil war dispute about how they move on from this moment as opposed to an idea logical one at this juncture. howie: our talk show giant larry king. but when we come back many pundits couldn't resist a last kick in the pants as the former president left washington. where can a healthier heart lead you? for people with heart failure taking entresto, it may lead to a world of possibilities. entresto is a heart failure medicine prescribed by most cardiologists. it was proven superior at helping people stay alive and out of the hospital. heart failure can change the structure of your heart so it may not work as well. entresto helps improve your heart's ability to pump blood to the body. and with a healthier heart, there's no telling where life may take you. don't take entresto if pregnant; it can cause harm or death to an unborn baby. don't take entresto with an ace inhibitor or aliskiren,

we are learning also tonight that senator tim scott will not support this last-minute impulse impeachment and as alan dershowitz explained the, the legislature doesn't have jurisdiction to impeach a president afteraf he's already left office whicho appears to e the plan. here with reaction, house minority whip's steve scalise, here harvard law professor, alan dershowitz. i spoke, steve, to your leader kevin mccarthy earlier tonight. he was very, very, very clear. that is that he doesn't support the president resigning. he doesn't support this. impeachment, and that he has said so in two letters that he is sent out to members saying it's a bad idea which renders "the new york times" wrong again. >> sean, it's good to be with you. look, this is a very divisive move from the speaker to try and really divide the country even more at a time we should be focused on bringing it together. there is a powder keg out there you've seen for months. this isn't something to happen w wednesday. what happened wednesday is disgusting. everything a person who storm the capital and attacked capitol police wh

. >> katie: in terms of the election integrity issue, senator tim scott has contributed legislation.would be wise of joe biden to get on board with it, to create this election commission, bipartisan groups of senators and house members to help the state legislatures have more transparency in their electoral process to get them what they need, from security, homeland security -- a list of things we have heard in these complaints that he wants to address. you have senator rand paul is saying his goal is going to be going tall the state legislatures and talking to them about what they can do as a federal government to back the states, help the states who are in charge of our elections. republicans control the majority, 28, of state legislatures around the country. they have to get code election lawyers, be prepared, and change these rules that they believe led to the disenfranchising of a number of voters! the work is going to be ahead of them. >> dana: we are going to take a break in a moment, but greg, i think it's interesting -- we spent two months talking about the georgia runoffs.

down the line tom cotton, tim scott, lindsey graham, marco rubio, ted cruz, rand paul, the list goeselieve the republican party has a future in which they are putting the finger in their eye of trump voters and that something that is really up in the air right now in terms of the republican coalition. >> bret: it's interesting that you would mention the senate minority leader, mitch mcconnell, who is somehow negotiating go forward with impeachment but no filibuster busting. here is mitch mcconnell. >> the legislative filibuster is a crucial part of the senate. leading democrats like president biden himself have long defended it. so with the talk of unity and common ground is to have meeting, and certainly the rules from 20 years ago are to be our guide, then i cannot imagine the democratic leader would rather hold up the power-sharing agreement then simply reaffirm that his side won't be breaking the standing role of the senate. >> bret: it's is just to give you a behind-the-scenes mitch mcconnell essentially negotiating, okay. we will plan impeachment trial in the senate but you can

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we are learning also tonight senator tim scott will not support this last-minute impulse impeachment. as professor alan dershowitz recently explained under the constitution, the legislature does have jurisdiction to impeach and remove a president after he has already left office which appears to be the plan. here with reaction, haus minority whip steve scalise, harvard law school professor, host of the podcast, alan dershowitz. i spoke to your leader, kevin mccarthy, earlier tonight. he was very, very, very clear and that is that he doesn't support the president resigning. he doesn't support the impeachment. he has said so in two letters that he sent out to members saying it's a bad idea which renders "the new york times" wrong again. >> sean, it's good to be with you. this is a very divisive move by the speaker to try to really divide the country even more at a time when we should be focused on bringing it together. look, there's a powder keg out there that we've seen for months. this wasn't just something that happened wednesday. what happened wednesday was disgusting. every single

you had senators like tom cotton, mike lee, tim scott represent a sort of the next stage of conservatismc., begin to open a new lane there. jonathan swan is quite right that there is still a huge bases of support within the republican party drop this country but we are beginning to see the slow turn here. >> chris: all right, panel, see you next sunday. up next, our power player of the week. you're going to want to watch this one. the gift of a chemistry kit unlocked one girls imagination and she has gone on to solve some of the world's problems. usable to ♪ ♪ >> chris: she is just a teenager, which is already accomplished more in a few short years than most of us could even imagine doing in a lifetime. and now she's earned a new title, here's our "power player of the week." ♪ >> everyday of my life i spend using science and technology for kindness. >> chris: scientist, inventor and time magazines first ever kid of the year. chosen from 5,000 candidates, she was honored for her body of work at the age of 15. >> you are kid of the year! >> i'm hoping to prove that anybody can be an innova

tim scott of south carolina treating his support writing "the democrat led impeachment talks happening in the house right now fly in direct opposition to what president-elect joe biden has been calling for all year. and impeachment vote will only lead to more hate and a deeply fractured nation. i am posing teaching president trump." more hate and i deeply fractured nation. meanwhile vice president mike pence in a letter to the house speaker nancy pelosi made it clear tonight he has no plans to invoke the 25th the movement to remove the president from office no matter what happens in the vote on capitol hill. by the way, that resolution was brought forward by democrat jamie raskin of maryland. we have been keeping an eye on that we will certainly have all the news tomorrow as an historic day unfolds here in the capital. shannon prayed >> shannon: starting to feel that they are all that way these days. thank you. 3,000 additional national guard troops will be surrounding the capital as lawmakers prepare for the impeachment vote tomorrow and the inauguration next week. new fences are now

senators tim scott and jerry moran are the latest to add their names to the list. 12 senate republicansnd leader mccarthy calling to respect the states' authority. they write, the constitution is clear. states elect s select electors. congress does not. accordingly, our path forward is also clear. we must respect the states' authority here. none that they we see here is going to change the outcome that joe biden will be sworn in as president in two weeks. let's bring in nbc news and msnbc contributor shawna thomas to talk more about this. shawna, great to see you. thanks for getting up early. i really want to talk to you about what we learned about in georgia last night, and now it's going to play out here in washington. because what's going to play out in congress is related, of course, to how the republican party thinks it should be conducting itself. the schism among those who need to conduct ourselves accordingly and oh, by the way, the constitutional thing to do. and looks lick republicans are on track to lose control of the senate here. we haven't called that second race here, so

i love tim scott 18 76, south carolina, louisiana and florida. sent to slate of electors. they had two governments by the way, and we didn't know what to do. why did south carolina, florida and louisiana do it? hold the country hostage to end reconstruction. it worked. the commission was 8 to 7. it didn't work. nobody accepted it. the way it ended is when hayes did a deal with these three states. you give me the electors. i'll kick the union army out. the rest is history. it led to jim crow. if you're. looking for historical guidance, this is not the one to pick. if you're looking for a way to convince people there was no fraud. having a commission chosen by nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john roberts is not going to get you to where you want to go. it ain't gonna work. so it's not going to do any good. is going to delay and he gives credibility to a dark chapter of our history. that's why i'm not with you, but i will fight to my death for you. you're able to object. you're not doing anything wrong. other people have objected. i just think is a uniquely bad idea to dela

senator tim scott put out a tweet about what was going on yesterday amongst the senators after the first news came out guarding the entrance of the protesters into the capitol building, sending a tweet with a picture saying that as we were first taken to a secure space yesterday anxiety and tension was high and rightfully so. with the entire senate together i stood up and asked my colleagues to join us in prayer. the chaplain led us in the moment. there's a picture that accompanies the tweet from the senator. a couple of editorials calling out legislators over the actions yesterday, this is the york dispatch about representative scott perry, writing in part that the shocking and frightening display of lawlessness followed after midnight by the sight of representative perry leading a gang of congressmen in an ill advised ultimately fruitless attempt to disenfranchises him constituents by objecting to the counting of votes from pennsylvania, he truly believes that the election that returned him to the capital for a fifth term was illegal and should be overturned, has a personal recourse, h

president-elect biden gets together with people who were central in that on the republican side like tim scottanything is possible, and i hope that we can make progress on a bipartisan basis. there is a wide amount of agreement about certain failings within our criminal justice system and systemic racism issues within it, but i think that we can come together on it and work from there. mike: ed, we're nearly out of time, but a final word. >> it's a longer agenda. i think the president has to sell it and sell it immediately. meanwhile, the short-term thing is dealing with the virus, getting people back to work. mike: ed rollins, jessica tarlov, thank you so much. have a wonderful day. >> thank you, you too. >> thanks, mike. mike: indonesian officials looking for answers after the crash of a jetliner. what they have found, that's coming up. ♪ ♪ now, there's skyrizi. 3 out of 4 people achieved 90% clearer skin at 4 months after just 2 doses. skyrizi may increase your risk of infections and lower your ability to fight them. before treatment, your doctor should check you for infections and tubercul

senator tim scott count for accountability saying this is unconscionable and unsafe. safety questions are growing as defense officials confirmed more than 100 troops now tested positive for coronavirus. the committee is investigating if precautions were taken amid concerns the deployment is becoming a super-spreader event. troops maintained high spirits despite vetting for extremist ties and questionable accommodations only sending cots after these photos went viral. >> i'm extremely honored to be here and help protect the process and protect the country. >> the new president and first lady expressed thanks and gave support. joe biden in person, joe biden by phone. >> talked about his own personal commitment to the national guard given his son had served previously. >> capital police on the national guard said in a joint statement they are committed to the common goal of protecting the capital but did not resolve the question of who gave the controversial order. the troops are now working eight hour shifts instead of 12 allowing the more time to get hotel rooms outsid

see ted cruz jockeying for their crispier loud talk about nikki haley, tim scott, but jim jordan drew the line the same with liz cheney. the gop was under her dad. like a super preacher from were never going to go back to that. so who is in charge now? >> you point out the perfect example of this. it is the gym jordan versus the liz cheney. these numbers show us the people who are loyal to president trump are different than those who describe themselves as traditional republicans in that survey. there is a split there pretty big chunk of them are with jordan. i chunk her with liz cheney. the bigger jump trump that say we can separate the people are bad actors and criminal actors of the capitol barbie what no part of that. we like he was a fighter, he spoke up for us, that he did things that a lot of republicans had promised they would do for got cold feet once they got an office. he has a very loyal following, the gym jordan wing or the liz cheney wing winner did find a way to come together question that's a big challenge for republicans moving forward. sue for it's to be very interes

directly to this for the first time on the senate floor, you had senators like tom cotton, mike lee, tim scott, representing sort of the next page of conservatism in washington, d.c. begin to open a new lane. there is still a huge base of support within the republican party throughout the country. we're beginning to see a slow turn here. chris: all right, panel. thank you. see you next sunday. up next, our power player of the week. you're going to want to watch this one. the gift of a chemistry kit unlocked one girl's imagination and she has gone on to solve some of the world's p p p p p ♪[rhythmic drum beating] [birds chirping] [beating drums] [man] fire! [boom] ♪[upbeat beating drums] [cheering] [beating drums] [female narrator] find your park. [final drum beat] chris: she is just a teenager, but she's already a accomplished more in a few short years than most of us could even imagine doing in a lifetime. and now she's earned a new title. here is our power player of the week. >> every day of my life i've been using science and technology for kindness. chris: scientist, inventer and time maga

if when warnock heads to washington along with tim scott and cory booker that makes him among three currently sitting african american senators. so we talked about -- he talked about the magnitude of this moment earlier this morning on the "today show." here's what he had to say with savannah guthrie. >> our opponent, kelly loeffler spoke last night. she did not concede the race. do you expect a long drawn out process with legal challenges as we just saw in november in georgia? >> i expect to serve in a few days in the united states senate. i think the people of georgia heard a clear contrast. i talked about how i intend to represent them, and my opponent was focussed on how she would represent her own interests. >> and hallie, i think it's hard to overstate just politically what this means for the changing tide here in the state of georgia. something we, of course, saw in november once we got the results with georgia flipping blue for joe biden. to see a democratic senator headed to washington and to see the race as close as right now is something that's remarkable. one thing i want to menti

i love tim scott. 1876.south carolina, louisiana and florida sent two toelec, had two governments, by the way, and we didn't know what to do. why did south carolina, florida and louisiana do it? to hold the country hostage to end reconstruction. it worked. the commission was 8-7. it didwork. nobody accepted it. the way it ended is wh haze did a deal with these three states, you give me the electors, i'll keep the union army out. the rest is it led to jim crow. you're looking for historical guidance, this is not the one to pick. if you'rlooking for a way to convince people there was no fraud, having a commission na chosen bcy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john roberts is notgo g to get you to where you want to go. it ain't going to work. it's not going to do any good. it's going to delay.it gives credibto a dark chapter of our history, that's y i'm not with you but i will fight to my death to you. you can object. you're not doing anything wrong. other people objected. i thk it's a uniquely bad idea to delay thi

i love tim scott. 1876 south carolina, louisiana, and florida sent two slate of electors. they had two governments, by the way. and we didn't know what to do. why did south carolina, florida, and louisiana do it? to hold the country hostage to end reconstruction. it worked. nobody accepted it. the way it ended is when hayes did a deal with these three states. you give me the electors, i'll kick the union army out. the rest is history. it led to jim crow. if you are looking for historical guidance, this is not the one to pick. if you're looking for a way to convince people there was no fraud, having a commission chosen by nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john roberts is not going to get you to where you want to go. it ain't gonna work. so it's not going to do any good. it's going to delay and it gives credibility to a dark chapter of our history. that's why i'm not with you. but i will fight to my death for you. you are able to object. you are not doing anything wrong. it's a uniquely bad idea to delay this election. trump and i, we have had a hell of a journey. i hate it

. >> tim and i have a good relationship, i love tim scott. 1876, south carolina, louisiana and florida sent two slate of electors. they had two governments, by the way, and we didn't know what to do. why did south carolina, florida and louisiana do it? to hold the country hostage to end reconstruction. it worked. the commission was 8-7. it didn't work. nobody accepted it. the way it ended is when hayes did a deal with these three states, you give me the electors, i'll kick the union army out. the rest is history. it led to jim crow. if you're looking for historical guidance, this is not the one to pick. if you're looking for a way to convince people there was no fraud, having a commission chosen by nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell and john roberts is not going to get you to where you want to go. it ain't going to work. so, it's not going to do any good. it's going to delay and it gives credibility to a dark chapter of our history. that's why i'm not with you. but i will fight to my death for you if you are able to object. you're not doing anything wrong. other people have objected. i just

one very conservative, but considered a thoughtful senator, tim scott of south carolina, who is up in 2022 he already came out in opposition to impeachment. but there's a lot of other critical senators as well, like rob portman, who is also up for reelection, roy blunt, a member of mcconnell's leadership team. there are so many dynamics, steph, it's unclear if they can get 17 at this point but it is possible. >> inside the white house right now. >> well, steph, i can tell you i covered the first impeachment. this is a president who at least as it relates to the white house is increasingly isolated from some of his own top aides and allies. think about that first impeachment, steph, the west wing was buzzing with legal advisers, with surrogates and aides who were eager to get out and defend president trump. yesterday it was largely a a ghost town here. it's not clear what the communication strategy is, steph, and it's not clear what the legal strategy is or who will be on the legal team. among the names we've been hearing about, rudy giuliani, alan dershowitz, he has not been contacted

just within the last few minutes, tim scott of south carolina coming out and saying he would not supportese objections. they're looking at the constitutional argument and saying this is not congress' role. their job is to count. not to certify, not to investigate, not to get involved in the process. the elections were handled by the states. whatever your argument about the states' processes, this comes down to congress to be one last rubber stamp on this to say, yes, indeed, the count is accurate. that's what they intend to do. the most interesting thing about that memo is its existence at all and the fact it's being transmitted back and forth between republican house offices. it shows you this effort to disrupt the election has been professionalized. this isn't just some small group of republicans who are rallying to the president's side. they have really turned the machinery of their congressional offices, of their staff into something that's going to really make this fight try to look legitimate when we all know ho it's going to end. it's a preordained thing this will ultimately end w

senator tim scott took some really strong stances against the president but he also posted a photo of him praying with his colleagues as the capitol was being entered. colleagues of his of the different party as well, praying with him, using scripture and i think that's what we could use a whole lot more of in this country. charles: yeah. yeah. next time we will talk about the media, because the olive garden is a great restaurant. beverly -- >> i love the breadsticks. charles: happy new year. yes. who doesn't. moments ago, folks, joe biden said that it's the government's role, it is the government's role to encourage the formation of unions and also said he gave a real hard look at senator bernie sanders for labor secretary. you know, that's why the future of capitalism is going to be our first town hall this year. it is so vital. send your videos, send questions, statements, comments, observations, fears, send them to me right now. investedinyou@foxbusiness.com. i want to hear from you, i want to share them with our guests and let's see if we can figure some things out. >>> by the wa

mitt romney, tim scott, rob portman, you can keep going down the list of why they believe this is a threat to the constitution. >> harris: chris wallace, you have heard martha and bret talking about what is really at stake for vice president pence today, what his role will be. and that breaking news at the top of the hour, he issued a statement making it very clear what his role would be today. when the president says, you know, i'll paraphrase him now. during that speech, he did a couple nights ago ahead of the election runoffs in georgia. when he says the vice president has to "do the right thing," what does he mean by that? is there some sort of political ramification if pence follows the law, and not president tru president trump? >> chris: yeah. i think to be straight about it what donald trump is saying when he says "do the right thing" is "do the right thing for donald trump." not do the right thing for the constitution, not do the right thing for the 150 million plus americans who voted in this election, and he is following the constitution, he is following the electoral count act

i love tim scott. 1876, south carolina, louisiana, and florida sent two slated electors. they had two governments, by the way. and we didn't know what to do. why did south carolina, florida, and louisiana do it? to hold the country hostage to end reconstruction. it worked. the commission was 8-7. it didn't work. nobody accepted it. the way it ended is when hayes did a deal with these three states. you give me the electors, i'll kick the union army out. the rest is history. it led to jim crow. if you're looking for historical guidance, this is not the one to pick. [ laughter ] if you're looking for a way to convince people there is no fraud, having a commission chosen by nancy pelosi, mitch mcconnell, and john roberts is not going to get you to where you want to go. it ain't going to work. so it's not going to do any good. it's going to delay and it gives credibility to a dark chapter of our history. that's why i'm not with you. but i will fight to my death for you. you're able to object. you're not doing anything wrong. other people have objected. i just think it's a bad