i think when i say that, nikki haley and tim scott are kind of playing into that. i mean. they want to pretend like racism existed. and now, we are here. and i think that is part of that kind of fear, that if we acknowledge that racism is still an ever-present part of our democracy, a part of this growing multi racial democracy, then we are going to be moving in a dangerous direction. as opposed to saying, hey, what if we acknowledge what's happening is not great? what's happened is a great, and let's move forward together. and i think that's what we're getting on when i say tim scott and nikki haley are playing into that. >> i think that's a fair point. what they are doing in simply acknowledging america's original sin of racism and slavery, tim scott telling the story of his grandfather and how it affected him, itself stands out from a lot of the rhetoric you hear from republican politicians, particularly the south. it is important also to make a distinction. you can argue they're waiting it incorrectly, about the progress that has been made well these gains we s

they like their colleague, many of them, tim scott. will he become a real candidate or is he mainly running for vice president? then, cpac. you know, everybody avoided it this year. there were a lot of reasons for that. you do not see -- did not see the leadership, the members of congress that would usually go out there. we have biden playing the waiting game for whatever he is doing. democrats are happy when they watch what is going on with the republican right. they want them to totally bloody each other and make it easier for joe biden. i think there is pretty good potential for that. isn't that donald trump's him k? that he will take on the people that take him on? and, he will make life rough for them. it will just be a real slugfest. probably, it will be pretty ugly at the end of it. >> there is an interesting 12 punch trump is playing here. you are right. he will make this a bar brawl by the end of it. right now want to see him doing is very small events, policy focused defense. whoever thought donald trump would be doing policy

how does tim scott fit into all of those? >> first of all i love tim scott. he has such an amazing story. he is a fighter. think about what he has overcome in his life. he grew up in poverty raised by a single mother and a grandfather who had to quit school in third grade to pick cotton. he went from a grandfather picking cotton to being in the united states senate. he is a fighter but a happy warrior just like ronald reagan. ronald reagan was a happy warrior. a lot of people confuse being angry with being a fighter. you can be a fighter and be a happy warrior and do it with a twinkle in your eye with a positive message. ronald reagan brought down soviet communism with a twinkle in his eye. tim scott is a fighter with a twinkle in his eye. he has a great personal story, great message and $22 million in the bank. not nothing if you want to run for president. >> dana: not too shabby. >> bill: we'll call this mondays with marc. >> dana: we'll claim you on monday. >> bill: have a good day. >> i will be here every monday. >> bill: just watching the dow right now.

senator tim scott from the great state of south carolina. know you were in iowa, i will ask but it next time. unless you want to post pictures on social media thank you for joining us on a sunday night. >> thank you, trey. trey: 2024 is here. almost. donald trump, nikki haley, i havivek ramaswamy are in. joining us now town town hall political editor, fox news contributor guy benson, three are in, how bigger you expecting the primary party to get? >> thank you, trey, it since it is interesting to see the field shape up or not. you had two guests earlier, two u.s. senators one who was rumored to be running tom cotton he took himself out months ago and others have done the same. maybe the last man standing in u.s. senate on republican side who might still run is your good friend tim scott, he is testing the waters. larry hogan over in maryland. he was talking about running, he announced last weekend he will not run. i think the concern among some voters, it would be another giant cattle call of two dozen people seeking the nomination. it doesn

i think it washe caller from south -- tim scott admitted they would cause inflation. that is how we are here now. thank you/ -- thank you. host: steve, a republican. caller: i have been following this problem since day one. i'm not too intelligent but i can figure this o out basically. if the fed caused this problem by rate hikes and if the fed stops the rate hikes to control inflation, we can expect continued inflation. which means we have to sp the spending. that is the only way we cado anything. we must back the house to get biden to back off on spending. that is all i got to say. host: no other regulation is needed? caller: well, one has to look at what kind of regulation the fed will insist on. we both know -- everybody knows that they want to push us into a digital currency. is this a means to push us into a digital currency? host: steve in san jose. wall street journal highlights one of the people in the dodd frank legislation, former senator barney frank, now sitting on the board of a bank. saying mr. frank earned more than $2.4 million in compensation from si

he had the best election in 2022 with tim scott. i think it shows republicans have a dean and wide bench. there's a contrast with donald trump. people are looking for the policies but notally the drama. that will be his pitch. i think he will be very successful if he decides to tray to mount a run. >> martha: obviously it's a fascinating situation, joe. none of us have witnessed a president that served and then was off for a term and then makes a shot at coming back like grover cleveland did. so you're sort of a president once removed. people feel very open about saying, you know, not necessarily yours. we're all going to get in here. what do you think as you look like what is the firstest matchup between those two? >> this will be an epic battle for a nomination that we've seen in our lifetimes. here you have the up and comer, ron desantis. he won his state by 19 points. won in blue counties like miami-dade and palm beach county. you have donald trump who got more votes than any president in history, 74 million. he has a very loyal

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looks like tim scott will get in.s this look to you in terms of how it's shaping up with this unusual situation of a former president, four years removed from office who is back in the ring? >> usually we look at these things as lanes. who has what lane. i think that right now you're trying to figure out which lane is going to be with which candidate. tim scott looks like he's getting in as the fresh face lane. happy warrior lane. but that's now starting to get crowded. you have nikki haley doing that same pitch. ron desantis -- >> martha: also from south carolina. >> yes. looks like ron desantis will announce in june after the legislative session. so at that point, at what number does it start to benefit the former president by more and more numbers chipping away at the fresh face hope for voter whose are looking for something different? >> martha: he's hoping that everybody gets in, right? then it's a much smaller margin to make it through the primary. get your thoughts on president biden. he's talking about drillin

guy: tim scott is speaking right now. the title of today's hearing, recent bank failures and the federal regulatory response, we are not hearing from signature and we are not hearing from svb. why not? kailey: they want to testify. it has been requested by the chairman in the ranking member. when i spoke with sherrod around for my asked him, is the policy response moving to slowly and he said no but it would move a lot quicker if the ceos would come down here and speak to the committee. it's an open question whether that will happen and how the committee will move forward without that testimony but they will not get it from those executive today which is why the regulators will get all the difficult questions. alix: how partisan do we expect this to wind up being? in terms of everyone getting on the same page, i can appreciate if it's just the banks but they are not there. what are you expecting? kailey: i expect the fed vice chair will be the punching bag instead because for the republicans them, this is a supervisory fa

tim scott. with ron desantis, he sees a threat but i think his best offense as the frontrunner would be don't punch down. >> steve: here's the thing, brian, he has been hitting ron desantis on the issue. on the issue of covid he said. >> brian: not vulnerable. i'm saying is he not vulnerable in that area. >> steve: here's the thing. when he says ron desantis kept florida shut down, that's not accurate. because, when -- remember, at the height of the pandemic, as the world was shutting down. it was the federal government that shut everything down. as we know, famously, i had two weddings in our family that year. we wound up having it in florida because it was the only state that was open at that time. so for the former president to say look, ron desantis screwed up on covid, that is a rewriting history. >> ainsley: get to the point where he doesn't call him names and say you are right, great guy, served our country, very educated, doing a great job in florida but look at what i have done and i do

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louise: priest says tim stewart sent him this picture of tim and scott morrison together. se tim said the families were, which was why he said there was a way, due to that closeness, that he could influence the prime minister. louise: at the time, scott morrison was preparing for one of his first acts as prime minister, a national apology to survivors of institutional child sexual abuse. eliahi priest set up a meeting with tim stewart and others. the group wanted the phrase "ritual sexual abuse" included in the national apology. dr. michael salter: so, when the qanon conspiracy is using the term "ritual abuse," they're using it as synonymous with child torture, cannibalism, really the most gross and vivid and graphic allegations of child abuse that you can imagine. it has been folded into a set of beliefs about the united states government, in which there are high-powered, high-profile individuals who secretly engage in these strange satanic ceremonies. louise: eliahi priest showed four corners messages he says tim stewart sent him referring to his attempts to get the words

>> i think, you know, tim scott, interesting potential kind that did not hear his name mentioned evenkend and, i think that is a fundamental base representativ of a fundamental conservativ base of this republican party, that any candidate is going to need there is one potential candidate who is already down, that is larry hogan announcing yesterday that he, the forme maryland governor is not going to jump into this republican presidential race. he said he does not want those to asian where there is a ca pileup of candidates that allo mr. trump to walk into the nomination, but god bless larr hogan, i did not meet a single republican voter of last two years who told me i am thinkin about larry hogan. god bless them, i hope everything goes well for him i choosing not to run fo president. but, i never heard of anybod that actually wanted him running for president, and, as it goes to january 6th, i just have to say, and there was a great number of folks that did not agree with the physica means in which that da unfolded, but by and large folks agree with the justification of the costs that

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mike pence, tim scott these other potential figures not in attendance. host: why not ron desantis? guest: it has to do with the fact that this is a trump dominated event. ron desantis, although he is cut from the same cloth of trump, he is buying for the same group of voters -- vying for the same group of voters. he has to be careful of how he navigates these waters to appeal to the trump voters by the same time not poking the bear that is president trump. yes become president trump's main target and although he has not announced he's running for president yet. ron desantis is continuing his book tour and built his own national profile. host: -- guest: club for growth is a political action committee or group that is much aimed at bolstering conservative lawmakers, republican candidates. he will be hoarding those members of the club for growth stating his case for them going into 2024. go see a number of candidates doing that as well. -- we will see a number of canada's doing that as well. florida has become the center of republican universe and it is great for ron desantis. he is a

the presidential announcement but some of the heat on —- the headlines run desantis, mike pence, tim scotthe other potential 24 figures not in attendanceot. >> why not run desantis quick. >> good question a lot of it is this is a trump dominated event and trump territory although he is cut from the same cloth he is vying for that same group of voters and it is trump territory. so he has to be careful about how he navigates the waters trying to appeal to those trump voters many have voted for him and multiple elections while at the same time not poking the bear. and thenn to become the main target even though he hasn't announced his running for president yet he is being very careful and continuing the book tour to build his own national profile. >> what are we doing for the club for growth quick. >> it is a political action committee to bolster those candidates so he will be recording those members of the press and bringing his case to them going into 2024 other candidates doing that as well. florida has become the center of the republican universe which is great for ron desantis because he

>> we have tim scott.'m very interested to see what sort of shadowboxing we see playing out on stage, but we have some other republican candidates, and also, influencers like hometown senator lindsey graham, marsha blackburn, former congresswoman tulsi gabbarwill be there. asa hutchinson. john kennedy was a center. we will seek to confirm presidential candidates, as well as mike rogers, who is a late confirmation as of last night. next telme about the family counsel. what is this about and how is it funded? >> ty are a nonprofit. they are basedn columbia. they were founded in 1993 in the state of south carolina, and to us, this is a cradle of christian conservatives. that iwhere you hear a lot of evangelicals. that is why see mike pence going back time and ti again. this group is based in columbia. in addition to their nonprofit work, they have a very strong lobbying arm. they are very invoed in the legislature and lobbying on efforts like abortion, same-sex marriage, which they are opposed to, sex ecation

don't fall for the primary stuff, you have good and decent people, desantis, pompeo tim scott nikki haley. it's not relevant. we don't have time for on-the-job training for a man that gave us four years. of peace and prosperity. show me what can griffin has given us. show me what mitch mcconnell has given us. show us what the murdochs, a bunch of foreigners have given us what have they given this country? nothing. donald date -- donald trump at a very volatile time it gave us four years of peace and prosperity. do you know why? he put you in the room to make decisions, out of the room and out of the deal. trump not only put you in the room he put you at the head of the table. that's why they hate him, they don't hate him because he's trump they hate him because he represents you, he gives you a voice and he will not back down. look at fox news, the president announces, this is historic. he gave you four years of peace and prosperity in announces he's going to run again after having it stolen in broad daylight, they covered it for 20 minutes and then they said if there's anything newsworth

south carolina senator tim scott is indicating that he's inching closer to announcing his old candidacyowner summit in the primary states in iowa and new hampshire, expecting to announce something soon. good news for senator scott, throwing this out into the rain, there's a lot of room to grow. polling has him just 4%, but trump is still right now running away with the nomination. you've got a 14 lead, and it's been growing throughout the year, despite the growing threat of indictments. jen psaki is the former white house press secretary to president biden, host of msnbc inside with jim psaki, which debuted this weekend and was great. we have the embiid -- and both of them join you now. michael, let me start with you. obviously there is no real precedent here, we haven't had the indictment of the next president, but i'm trying to add aaron burr, indicted and tried to declare himself king in that territory and was acquitted. >> that's the amazing part, it wasn't for that. or another scheme where he was set off as a king. >> so we don't have that president right now, but my question is th

and the narcotic of despair. >> dana: nike haley was governor of south carolina and tim scott is theunior senator. he has yet to officially declare his candidacy. >> john: as we move here now to the homeless crisis in california, a recent audit shows taxpayers have spent billions trying to solve the problem but have very little to show for it. william la jeunesse has the story if los angeles. >> whether it's l.a. or any other california city homelessness is the number one problem. not for lack of money according to an audit but accountability. california has 10% of the u.s. population but 33% of the nation's homeless. taxpayers spent $17 billion in the last three years say lawmakers to move people off the street and turn their lives around. that's 100,000 for every homeless person. >> we're wasting a lot of money. throwing good money after bad. the governor is now proposing another billion dollars on programs we don't know work. >> where is all the money going? critics say they call it the homeless ink. hundreds of government agencies, corporations and nonprofits delivering services

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and and we hear also from senator tim scott from south carolina also making that case quite bit. and i think we'll hear that point just resurface here on the campaign trail next year as the gop seeks to figure out who is going to nominate who they're going to nominate heading into 2024. do you feel like since you left congress that your party is more welcoming to more people, color to more women to more individuals who are less likely be define and in a traditional way. when we start of republicans i think whole as a whole that's what that's what our principles would suggest. i think as a whole, yes. i think there are certain individuals that do not represent the best of what we believe in. i mean, you look at people like nikki haley, like tim scott, you look at, gosh, i served with will hurd and carlos curbelo. we used to have this joke. as a matter of fact, when there were in the gallery and we were on the floor and we were talking together and i would say we need to disperse. we can't be helped. we can't sit a clump and talk together. we need to we need to look, at least from

tim scott is one of the most popular republicans in south carolina.th have a similar message. they are shadow boxing at these campaign events early on but they are also competing for the same number of supporters and donors. so if there is a lane, an opportunity for different type of republican candidate, they are dividing a lot of the support amongst themselves right now. >> john: a lot can happen in terms of candidates rising and falling in a campaign but could either of them take on ron desantis. if you are a republican says time to move on from former president donald trump, do you need to look any further than ron desantis? >> there are a lot of questions about ron desantis's ability to with stand all the criticisms in a tough presidential campaign. we'll see where ron desantis lands on a lot of the top issues. he got into some trouble lately by taking a more isolationist view on ukraine as opposed to the traditional republican views like haley and scott articulated. there will be opportunity for other republicans to get in and draw contrasts wit

>> we have tim scott. i'm very interested to see what sort of shadowboxing we see playing out on stage, but we have some other republican candidates, and also, influencers like hometown senator lindsey graham, marsha blackburn, former congresswoman tulsi gabbard will be there. asa hutchinson. john kennedy was a center. we will seek to confirm presidential candidates, as well as mike rogers, who is a late confirmation as of last night. next tell me about the family counsel. what is this about and how is it funded? >> they are a nonprofit. they are based in columbia. they were founded in 1993 in the state of south carolina, and to us, this is a cradle of christian conservatives. that is where you hear a lot of angelicals. that is why see mike pence going back time and time again. this group is based columbia. in addition to their nonprofit workthey have a very strong lobbying arm. they are very involved in the legislature and lobbying on efforts like abortion, same-sex marriage, which they are opposed to, se

please, join me in welcoming south carolina's own senator tim scott. ♪ [applause] [cheering] sen. t: how is everybody doing? it is good to be home. i listened in the back to tulsi gabbard. isn't she impressive? is she still here? come out here for one second. [applause] i am eating into my time so you will have to hustle but she is a veteran, she can do anything. i want to say this very quickly before i get into my comments. you remember back when nine people lost their lives murdered. i was with trey gowdy and james lankford. tulsi gabbard calls me and says what can i do? i said i would love to have my friends with me. she flew in from hawaii to charleston to be a part of the morning -- mourning and celebration of life. thank you for that kind of friendship. [applause] god bless you. now, in america, we do not have to agree on everything but thank god for strong, powerful women who show up when you need them the most. amen. i will save it for when i get back on the stage in a few minutes but in 1995, a guy named dr. steve suits gave me a call and invited me to join the board of di

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ambassador haley and senator nikki scott -- tim scott. you think about them running for president? hutchinson: first of all, ambassador haley and senator scott, i am a fan of theirs. i know you are very proud of th in south carolina. i do think, as lindsey graham was lking about today, south carolina is critically important to the selection of the next gop nominee for president, and the direction of our country. even though i have not announced yet, i am going to make the decision, because i think south carolina is important. my decision is going to be in april so stay tuned in april for a decision. my wife susan, which i have not mentioned yet, i met her at bob jones university and she is from atlanta, georgia. we met at school but i wanted to get away and to law school. she had other designs on me. through all of that, it worked out. we have been married now for 49 years. [applause] so, my wife susan is supporting into that is an important part of the equation. frkly, i think it is ver important we have a consistent, conservative message

and as we mentioned, there's ron desantis is down in florida as opposed to cpac, we have tim scott, wee other big names, mike pence is there, as well, that made the conscious decision not to associate themselves with cpac because they're hearing from many rational republicans across the country that are ready to turn the page and ready to look past donald trump. and they're going down there and connecting with what i see as a strong movement within the republican party that is out to look for a candidate that reflects the policies of donald trump, but not the personality of donald trump. and there is a big movement out there. there's money behind it, there's momentum behind it, and there certainly is a strong desire even from social evangelicals who are strong on board with donald trump. republicans are ready to turn the page because they realize that while he may win a primary, it will not be possible to win a general election with that type of rhetoric in the future. >> i understand we do have that mike pompeo sound. let's listen to. >> if you're tired of losing, put your trust in a

you have nikki haley coming to his defense, all these people, tim scott coming to his defense. take on trump are also being put in this position where they have to back him. it is a very, very hard situation, especially when you think about the fact that republican voters like trump. it is like you have to get at trump without directly arguing with him. i think nikki haley was trying to do that when she rolled out saying the gop needed fresh names and needed to get past stale ideas. but she didn't actually say we should get rid of donald trump. >> and it is difficult -- it is still early on, right? is there -- are there advantages to now at least in this early stage kind of keeping quiet, keeping distant from it all, hoping that will somehow pass and at least the strongest aspect of that? >> there is some, i think, benefit to that, if you go after donald trump, if you're in the republican party right now, he will come after you with a ferociousness. think about ron desantis, he was trying for a long time not to talk about donald trump and you see this piers morgan interview whe

let's say that he announces or any of the other candidates who have announced looking at a tim scott, nikki haley, you're going to meet with the farm bureau and talk about agricultural specific issue when is you go to the farm bureau. other issues come up as well, but you're going to be talking about farm policy in iowa to the farm bureau, and then the des moines chamber of commerce, talking about specific business issues and, desantis as a governor will be able to talk about what he did about growing jobs, and as you talk to voters in different subsets, where they are, you emphasize what you want that message to be in that hour and in that day, and desantis, again, is demonstrating i can walk and chew gum at the same time where others haven't been able to do that. >> does he get past donald trump, in order to have those conversations he has to get past donald trump who's also running, and just to go back to 2016, didn't allow any other candidate to have any other side conversations because all of the conversations were about him. does that look different in 2024? >> i think it potent

please, join me in welcoming south carolina's own senator tim scott. ♪ [applause] [cheering] sen. t: how is everybody doing? it is good to be home. i listened in the back to tulsi gabbard. isn't she impressive? is she still here? come out here for one second. [applause] i am eating into my time so you will have to hustle but she is a veteran, she can do anything. i want to say this very quickly before i get into my comments. you remember back when nine people lost their lives murdered. i was with trey gowdy and james lankford. tulsi gabbard calls me and says what can i do? i said i would love to have my friends with me. she flew in from hawaii to charleston to be a part of the morning -- mourning and celebration of life. thank you for that kind of friendship. [applause] god bless you. now, in america, we do not have to agree on everything but thank god for strong, powerful women who show up when you need them the most. amen. i will save it for when i get back on the stage in a few minutes but in 1995, a guy named dr. steve suits gave me a call and invited me to join the board of di

in florida headlining governor ron desantis, the possible 2024 hopefuls like mike pence senator tim scott glenn youngkin are also avoiding the annual cpac event with only nikki haley and beaver grandma saw me planing to speak about. what is this tell us about the republican party and where should we go from here let's take it up with her piano lee zeldin you ran for governor of new york last november and came very, very close and the deep blue state and you going to be speaking at cpac this weekend what is your message and what the future of the republican party. >> the republican party needs to expand and grow their people that try to get votes from democrats acting like democrats and taking democratic positions. i say to a better job messaging why you're a conservative and don't pander. for going to the black community and hispanic community is not saying i love black people nation people and hispanic people vote for me it's pandering that you should get rewarded with a boat you should show up and say we need to make the security and safety on the streets better and here's how we need t

yellen told south carolina senator tim scott rising interest rates to combat inflation played a key role in the collapse. biden's handling of the economy contributed to these bank failures. but virginia democrat senator mark warner blamed social media in part for silicon valley bank's failure after depositors rushed to withdraw, their money resulted in a 42 billion dollar bank run. there is no responsibility for the equivalent of >> shouting fire in a crowded theater forcing that run using technologies, a mechanism to accelerate that. >> no presents a problem. >> and just to show how much really kind of happens in real time. by the time that hearing ended, the treasury had announced that lifeline to first republic bank live in washington. i'm jessi tenure. all right. very fast act in the air. thank you for that. jesse. >> still to come on the kron 4 morning news. do you hate? the uncanny valley? a new study shows that do not look like humans help improve your little details after the free. >> well, horseback riding could be the new way to treat back pain. a study from the university of f