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but also ron desantis does i think tim scott's folks understand that. there's one person who is the challenger to donald trump tim scott's challenge is to be that person. i think we have seen that ron desantis may not be as strong as a lot of people expected i think tim scott will try to be positioning himself as that person who can most effectively take on donald trump do it in a way that presents a real choice, a different type of republican that's clearly what is his message. he wants to bring back decency, some semblance of principals and ideas and solutions and policy there are a lot of people out there in the republican party who are desperate for that count me among them. the question is, are there a lot of those people? i think that's what tim scott will need to figure out, whether that lane is big enough to take down ron desantis so he can take on donald trump. >> former democratic representative donna edwards join us as well. couldn't he have more strength as a general election candidate than ron desantis, if he had the nomination, or clearly

katie, where do you see it going with tim scott?that his opening statement about his exploratory committee was fantastic, and he talked about general election message by defending america from the left, and the character of the country against the left's attack we have an evil country, oppressive country, and he talked about his own life story which i think everybody in america and republican voters in a primary should hear about how he came out of poverty to become a senator from south carolina, and he has a story to tell. everyone is going to be asking what's the difference between him and donald trump, asking him to define himself that way. there is not a single attack launched against donald trump that people have not heard, if republicans want to break out in the primary, at least stand out, they have to sell themselves as an alternative and also someone who can beat joe biden in the general election. >> sandra: let's hear more from tim scott himself, this is on selling a message of hope, juan. your reaction. >> i have found th

because if you're even people like tim scott and washington. but if you're not breaking through with the voters, it doesn't. you don't have to have push back. they can just ignore you and you're still at less than 5% still could be could be in a situation a scenario months from now we're trump and desantis. duke it out so bad that someone like senator scott can emerge can't stumble on issues like the abortion question that will become a problem later, but coming up next for us the inter generational rift boils over as calls for senator dianne feinstein to step down continue to grow. so when is it time to resign? that's next. in the next 30 sececonds, 250 couples will need to make room for a n nursey . 26 people will go all in this family will get two bathrooms. and finally, vacationer will say yeah, i'm gonna live here. euphoria subsides, the realization hit the house. don't worry, just selling by and one move when you start with open door. wow oh, yes. start with an all cash offer at open door .com. what if we li to 100? i don't wt to outlive

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mine, this is tim scott.ism and i, for one, am glad to see a candidate bringing that message because it is, you look around the field, paul, and the dourness and the anger, there really is a lot. ron desantis could take a little, few lessons on how to smile, i think, from tim scott, you know? i think one of the questions though then, also though related to this is what is he going to do on the policy side. and that's the big enunknown still about him. he's made his mark in a couple of lawyers in congress, in particular poverty and anti-poverty agenda that he put out. he was central in policing reform when that attempt was made. a lot of other things are still unknown, especially his foreign policy. and to the optimism point, he's still going to have to show that republican electorate that he's got some fight, because they're going to want that. doesn't mean you can't do it with a smile, but he's got to be willing to take on big issues. paul: allysia, a couple of potential challenges, one is he's a senator at

senator tim scott of south carolina he has launched a presidential exploratory committee. fense of the conservative values that make america exceptional. nbc's own ali vitali was abl to sit down with the republica for an exclusive interview o friday he spent much of the interview dodging direct questions including some about his potential chief rival in the race, donald trump >> to me a chance to talk abou -- >> scott did have this to sa about what is arguably the mos important voting issue of 2024 >> every time a state -- status the ability to have those conservative bills tha they can get past th legislature. i support the culture of lif without question >> it's six weeks the righ mile marker? >> the people have decided tha they're elected leaders have the opportunity to do so so i see absolutely. as the culture of life is bein protected, we should celebrate that states will have different varying views on that when h asked, if i were president o united states, i would literally sign the mos conservative pro-lif legislation that they can ge through congress >> even if it

we need people like tim scott politics, and it's good that he's in there, scott, we appreciate it. and time to get your kids on the school bus. we wish you were here. but you know, get at it, dad. you got it. you got it. i got to go. wake him up right now is on the stove and scott, we're sorry, also, and at the end, and i said no, but we're sorry. what happened in your state? and we hope you guys are holding up thinking about you. thank you very much for kentucky. thanks god. so this morning, defense officials say that they will quote turn over every rock until the source of the pentagon document leak is found. we're going to speak with the former chairman of the house intelligence committee. that's next. some things that g go betr together like your workplace benenefits and retirement servie with voya, considering all your financial choices together and help you be better prepared, unexpected events, voya wel planned, well invested well protected time for clean indoor air wh an air duct cleani from stanley steamer. you've noticed for carpet cleaning, but we've been cleaning air du

he is also trying to do what tim scott did.trying to thread th needle he has sort of going all, in a least action wise, right he is signing an extreme, on of the most extreme bans in th country that just passed today he has not signed it yet, bu he will sign it. if he succeeds in winning th republican nomination, thi bill he says he will sign that bans, effectively, abortion in florida, and this will rightly become a massive political albatross. obstacles to his desire to become president of the united states, it's not even popula in florida in florida, a majority o adults think abortion should b legal in all or most cases we saw protests like this erup in the capitol building today. there will be more, i imagine. i'm sure - i suspect that it from this an is has anyone with a two brain cells to rub together around him, they understand signing this bill isn't, the grand sense, a political mistake in the immediate sense, he's got a primary to win before th general. the only hope for republican who want to dodge, who want to yada-

it's not working for tim scott i can imagine if you are working for senator tim scott, particularly theratory committee, you might have seen that answer as, all right, team, we need to huddle on that one. we need actual answers on th very straightforward, very relevant question of whether h supports, yes or no, a nationa abortion ban particularly considering the fact that the senior senator from the home state, lindsey graham, has also proposed one. i assume tim scott's team go together, they worked on a gam plan, try it again today >> would you support a federal ban on abortions >> i would certainly say tha the fact of the matter is when you look at the issue of abortion, one of the challenge we have and continue to go through the most restrictive conversations withou broadening the scope and take look at the fact that i am a hunter percent pro-life. i will never walk away fro that the truth of the matter is when you look at the issues on abortion, i start with the various important conversation i had at a banking hearing where i was sitting in m office and listening to jane yellen, se

i want to talk about tim scott first. what did you hear?ow is he making his case as an almost announced candidate >> reporter: he's not officially in this race yet it's basically as close as you're going to get to a presidential announcement until he makes the official one forming that exploratory committee, and allowing him to test the waters here in iowa as he has been stoking that speculation across the country, he goes to iowa today and then of course to new hampshire and back to his home state of south carolina to round out the week now, i'd love to tell you what his event here was today he did a round table inside, but it was closed to press the focus, though, was on education and parents' ability to have better insight into what's going on in the classroom. i do think that the way that you frame this conversation, chris, is so important because the conversations that we're hearing on the campaign trail both on the tim scott side of things as well as the nikki haley side of things, other campaign events and candidates i've been tracki

i don't see tim scott attacking anybody else that is on that stage.e radical left's policies. >> martha: it's interesting. i remember watching him do the rebuttal to the state of the union. it was a strong speech. his message was belief in america. belief in the future of america and success and hard work and competition and these ideas that have become sort of, you know -- people don't talk about having an edge. let's win. let's be competitive. those are words that have gotten a negative connotation in the cou country. it's crazy to think about it. can he as a positive person in that mix, how does he compete with trump or some of these other candidates? >> he's in many ways a soothing candidate, right? look at donald trump. look at ron desantis. they're very loud, very noisy. very disruptive. they have these huge symbolic gestures whether it's building a wall or flying immigrantses to martha's vinnant. it gets a lot of attention. what senator scott does, he offers a peace, a calm a soothing message and a hopeful one. i think it's -- you look at polli

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and senator tim scott's toug position the most prominent black man i the republican party leans int the culture wars as he explore a run for president. i'm jonathan capehart. this is the saturday show. ♪ ♪ ♪ >> we hold these truths to b self evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator wit certain unalienable rights that among these are life, liberty, and the pursuit o happiness. the declaration of independenc certainly rings hollow today a the republican party continues to push legislation that is no only wildly unpopular an dangerous, but also strips these unalienable rights fro americans. friday, the supreme cour ordered continued access t mifepristone until the court could make a final decision on wednesday. polling shows a majority o americans, 64% believe abortio should be legal in all or most cases. we will get into that later. and, there is guns according to that gun violence archive, there have been mor than 150 mass shootings so far in 2023. the highest number of shooting recorded at this point in an year since at least 2013 gun violence is t

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senator tim scott.cing my exploratory committee for president of the united states. we must rise up to the challenges of our time. this is a fight we must win. and that will take faith. faith in god, faith in each other, and faith in america. >> bret: it's a slick video, jessica. it is very well done. it is not an official step into the race. it's an exploratory committee. we should point to the real clear politics average of polls on the nomination. and the former president is way ahead, expanding his lead over not yet in florida governor ron desantis. scott's lower than even liz cheney on this list. how do you think if scott gets in where he plays in this g.o.p. primary? >> jessica: well, i think it really depends on what governor desantis does and how much people want to replicate what happened in 2016 where there was kind of a clown car of candidates and that's how donald trump ended up winning because everyone was 3% or 4% and knocked each other out and ended one a republican nominee that wide swat

senator tim scott, not serious how is he fumbling this? republican, especially one who thinks that they want to b president, who cannot get this answer right sure, you can sign the mos conservative legislation tha comes across your desk if yo are president. but you cannot say that it wil be six weeks or ten weeks or one week he can't say that. he is trying to have it both ways, which is to appeal to th base on abortion but not get locked in in a way that is going to harm him. and in the way that has been harming the party. >> so matthew, will he succeed at that game he can't have it both ways >> first, i just have to say after that segment about donal trump saying that everybody cry, they remind me of anothe saturday night live upstairs with john levitz, who wa president of the pathologica liars club, johnny flanagan. that just is what it reminds we have somebody who constantl stuff up i think that rene is right tim scott is completely on serious. but in the republica nomination fight there is a lo of unserious candidates. and one is likel

so, tim scott, nikki haley, we wish them luck. i think the debates will be the key.ne will be here on fox news it was announced yesterday. 25 million people could be watching like they did in august of 2015. that's where you could possibly draw a contrast to donald trump. the challenge that tim scott or nikki haley or ron desantis has is their policy positions mirror donald trump's. how do you draw that contrast ainsley. >> ainsley: good point. rob, this really allows him to raise money so he can foot the bill for polling and cover any cost for travel. do you think he will run? >> i think he will run. i think he should run. i will tell you why. his story and his compelling personal message is really in stark contrast to a lot of the other people that we have the in the republican primary field right now, right? we have donald trump and donald trump's message is donald trump's message. we have been hearing that. that's not going to stop. but tim scott has a message of coming up from nowhere, making something out of yourself in america. it's a very positive affirming m

so our let's let's start with who is tim scott? how is he introducing himself and selling himself to voters? listen, this is the introductory period for yet another republican who might be entering the race. he is just doing in that exploratory committee a period now, but sims cut the senator from south carolina has long been seen as a rising star within the republican party. he is the loan. black republican senator in congress at this moment, and in his announcement launch, he really leaned into his own personal history. that's something that people close to him believe is something that will be a big selling point with people. the son of a single mother who grew up in poverty, and he really emphasized that as he tried to talk about what he can offer to the american people, but also offer some type of connections with them as well. should we listen to it did okay, so let's listen to a little bit of how he was introducing himself. i was raised by a single mother and poverty, the spoons in our apartment. plastic not silver, but we h

is this a lane for someone like tim scott? here should be, it shouldn't matter when you are a fighter for conservative principles. that has distinguished senator scott. but the problem is that republicans seem to want someone who'll fight no matter whether politically adadd -- advantageous just pick a fight. tim scott has about as strong profile for general election for any republicans looking to run for president, only african-american republican in senate, and lead to criminal justice issues, he has made faith a central part of his campaign or potential presidential campaign. the challenge will be like is there any opportunity for a non-trump, non-desantis candidate. particularly trump if you look at the polling, trump is just dominating the primary field in poll after poll, you know. sense of grievance a lot of his voter feel have fused party closer to trump. i think that electorate is more trump favorable than in 2016, unless trump is taking time off to deal with his legal problems, i think that he is the heavy favorite, it

look i think tim scott should be taken very seriously.e is, uh, i think one of the more respected senators. first of all, let's talk about the republicans. you do. you have had black handed to be taken seriously, if briefly from ben carson, herman cain in primaries past, there's these moments where they're sort of like a rush to the black candidate, and they sort of fade. if that happens with tim scott, he might be able to hold on. two more support. i think you know his record in terms of getting support for black colleges for getting support for opportunity zones for getting support for criminal justice, i think makes him unusual in terms of his ability to appeal to democrats, possibly. but first he's got to get through this primary. and i think you know, i remember when you had nikki haley on stage with marco rubio and tim scott. and you know, 56 years ago and i was looking at that would be a very, very tough republican party for democrats. if you had , you know if that's the face of the republican party right now, trump is in the way i

well tim scott is one of the most relentlessly optimistic people in politics. certainly in the republican party. he always describes the united states as a land of opportunity. he calls the republicans the gop, the grand opportunity party. that's his disposition, and it's really going to i think to your point stand out in this field where you've got other candidates who are constantly describing america and sort of apocalyptic tones where scott comes from those you know, given where he started and given, you know, he always says he went to from cotton to congress in one generation given where his grandfather started and then where he is wound up and then given the fact that he was raised by a single mother, given the fact that he credits getting on track with his education is turning his life around. and it's his life story that i think sort of informs this narrative about america being a land of opportunity, and that's why republicans love tim scott. he's inspiring. he has great communications abilities. he's great retail politician. he's beloved in his home s

david, i'm going to share with you what senator tim scott tol our colleague earlier today. >> if our president of the united states, i would literally sign the mos conservative pro-lif legislation that they can ge through congress >> even if it was six weeks? >> i'm not gonna talk about six, five, seven, or ten. i'm guessing one of the most conservative legislation tha can come through congress -- >> he said that today. not 24 hours after delivering complete nonsensical words solid when asked about abortion >> look, you are seeing generation of republicans wh have come up having to b absolutist on the issue of guns the issue of abortion, and the issue of taxes you are seeing that intens got. he is so uncomfortable i trying to respond to thi question 20 years ago, bush 43 said tha the answer this question is no changing laws in the constitution, it isn't changin hearts and minds that was good enough for the republican party 20 years ago. it is not now. listen, you're going to se every republican presidentia candidate have to take a har lined position whomever comes out of th republica

i love tim scott. he has it. but can he stand on the stage with donald trump and the razzle-dazzle factor of donald trump? i don't think he can. >> it's a personal narrative. does it translate into a political movement? personal narratives are great but they don't encapsulate those issues that trump totally galvanizes. >> trump does have the personality. desantis has a damn good record. i am telling you, when he starts presenting that, and be honest, tim scott is a smart guy. everyone knows he is running for vice president. where is his record? >> he is more of a bush republican. he is not a trump guy. >> the last debate ron desantis was in was not impressive. i am talking about a debate. he was not very good. he did not match the record. donald trump on the stage is incredibly good with the base. >> do think charlie crist could beat him? >> here is what we have to remember. the donor class does not know politics. they know money. >> they like china too, don't they? >> we have to go to 270. witch candidate can ge

the race for president here in the u.s., south carolina senator tim scott watching a presidential exploratory committee without referencing his name, offering himself as an alternative to donald trump. the latest "abc news" poll and what it could signal about any biden/trump rematch if it were held now. tonight the nypd responding to a new threatening letter sent to the manhattan d.a., sources telling abc news the letter contains a white powder. the d.a. now receiving multiple death threats since the indictment of former president trump. the big change that could be coming for new cars in the u.s. and him and not-so-distant future. the epa proposal -- also breaking news in case against fox news for the judge has decided and america strong tie, the super bloom, you'll see it, the rangers and their message to all of your home from from the spectacular fields of flowers across this country. ♪ ♪ >> from abc news world headquarters in new york, this is "world news tonight" with david muir. it's feeling that even come a head with you with us here on a wednesday night we begin tonight with the call

you see asa hutchison, nikki haley, tim scott in the race.tantial people who are going to have something to say. i don't think that's what it means at all. i think each one of these decisions were made on rather personal levels. in particular pompeo was a decision, he didn't want to do it. you got to really want to do this. having done this, i can tell you you really got to want to do it. >> trump had a long interview with tucker carlson. tucker asked him directly, will you run if you are not just indicted but convicted? here's what he had to say. >> is there anything they can throw at you legally that would convince you to drop out of the race? if you get convicted in this case in new york? >> no. that's not my thing. wouldn't do it. >> not surprising. >> his legal troubles those troubles have enabled him to solidify, i think, his base. >> look at the fund-raising. >> correct. he was raising like $168,000 a ynu the day before he was indicted his fund-raising numbers have gone up. now, we don't know the actual picture because we haven't seen

i think that there would be a lot of excitement for tim scott, he is different from donald trump.m ron desantis. different from a lot of people. why not. i think that republicans are stronger to hear from more people, find out who is the best. jackie: senator scott on fox and friends this morning talk about what some g.o.p. candidates are doing wrong. >> the field of play is focusing on president biden's failures, what americans want to see is a contrast between the radical left and the blueprint to ruin america and why our policies actually work. jackie: that is one aspect of it. the other aspect too is to drill down,tizintize teasing out what he says to drill down on the economy. how president trump had built this whole economy up in united states then how president biden and bad policy tore it down, economy seems it will be a huge issue moving forward for the candidates. >> right. he is at the center of it in senate, all they do is legislation. we knows what joe biden did. what affect is tr is it is having, he is right, you have to explain what you would offer as an alternative

let's start with tim scott. give a lot of sources on capitol hill.of friends in congress who don't want donald trump to be in office can and they don't want to santos to run. >> colleagues are encouraging him to do so. he has the story of someone who grew up in poverty and always a sitting senator. he is a very different tone than donald trump. he's considered friendly and good with voters in person. but republicans are being honest with themselves, it's a real question if republican primary voters want a nice guy like that. they want and for two reasons. two, someone told me that there is no downside in running. he could depict his vice presidential candidate running mate and the other issue we could see this address is if trump is out there taking swings at everybody which he still is and doing all the time, scott offers a very different tone and that's a tone that republicans are hoping voters are going to listen to as well and not alienating swing voters paired but realistically, republicans will tell you he's probably not going to be the nominal

tim scott i go to church with him.hip coming out of our state and i look forward to a vigorous primary in the state of carolina which is first in the south for republican primaries in the presidential. >> brian: okay you perried that question. >> doing my best here. >> brian: you did. you got a lot of friends in high places. thanks so much. meanwhile coming up straight ahead. the legal plot thickens. the alvin bragg is suing jim jordan over the trump indictment subpoenas. former prosecutor francey hakes said this is lieu chris and we put it in bold she really meant it. a michigan family welcomes first baby girl in 130 years. we chronicle their life. ♪ baby my darling ♪ be my baby ♪ be my baby now ♪ keeps flaring, put it in check with rinvoq, a once-daily pill. when uc got unpredictable, i got rapid symptom relief with rinvoq. and left bathroom urgency behind. check. when uc got in my way, i got lasting, steroid-free remission with rinvoq. check. and when my gastro saw damage, rinvoq helped visibly repair the colon lini

and tim scott feels out of presidential run today. he's in iowa as he stands up and exploratory committee is opening message. heavy on biography heavy on faith, the biden agenda but makes no mention of the republican frontrunner donald trump. today our country is once again being tested once again, our divisions run deep and the threat to our future is real. joe biden and the radical left have chosen a culture of grievance over greatness. i will never back down and defense of the conservative values that makes america exceptional. first for us this hour, perhaps the biggest legal, political and policy question front and center right now in america. how will the court settle a big fight over keeping abortion pills on shelves as soon as today? a federal appeals court could rule to pause or to let stand a ruling from a conservative judge that would take abortion pills off the market? the biden justice department must meet a one p.m. deadline. that's an hour from now. one pm deadline. to respond to an overnight filing from anti abortion d

tim scott did his sort of semirollout. >> yeah. you tim scott on the abortion issue. >> if the 20-week ban would reach your desk. 20-week ban, definitely. >> i'm not going to talk about six, seven or 10 and the most conservative that can come to congress. >> that's what you're saying. >> yes. >> they don't know what to say. >> what may be interesting to you is there are people close to tim scott who are happy with the headline coming from aly vitale's interview. they will sign -- they didn't like 20 weeks the week before? >> they think whatever will come through congress will have a conservative consensus and that's the line you'll see from him moving forward. on the other side of the aisle because the big issue is what does this mean for a general election and where the american population is and where are the american voters at large and one democrat phrased it to me, tim scott's presence essentially could be ron desantis' future and the idea that there's difficulty in answering the abortion question. doesn't this give you 2015 v

>> i have my crystal ball just warming up here's what i will say about tim scott.leagues. we did an item on punch bowl news saying he's going to be a strong candidate i hope he really does well that's different than an endorsement. i will say this, he raises a ton of money like more money than most senators he, i think, has $20 million in the bank he's extraordinarily attractive to the donor class, big and small, and that's obviously helpful here he already has outside groups supporting him, so he is somebody with some appeal. quite frankly, what is donald trump going to attack tim scott on he has been a rock solid conservative when he came. he's not terribly controversial. you might disagree with his polly pp policy positions, but he has a hopeful message and he is part of that new generation so all of those things combined, i don't know if he's going to be a strong candidate i don't know if he's going to win. but he could be appealing to a pretty big swath of people. >> i think it does say a lot about the republican party and their confidence in donald trump and

we will see if anything changes in the coming months with tim scott and ron desantis joining the racee more nicknames, maria, as far as challengers but something about tim scott, he's really going on a killing with kindness campaign. i almost feel like it's very much i'm not trump, very much i'm not going to go negative. i noticed on some of the campaign stops he's not though answering questions what restrictions on abortion that he would support. he's being very vague, when he does, if he does jump in next month, he's going to have to be a lot more clear about what he stands for versus what he's not. maria: yeah, at this point, i want to see what all of the candidates plans are to tackle corruption. john, that's all that matters to so many people right now because we have seen two systems of justice, two applications of the law, what is ron desantis going to do, who what's is tim scott going to do to ensure, to put a check on this corruption in plain sight? >> first thing -- exactly, you have to assure a level of playing field. if you tolerate corruption by one group of people and on

here's rachel scott. >> tonight, republican south carolina senator tim scott all but announcing he's for president in 2024, presenting himself as an optimistic alternative to donald trump without saying his name. >> today our country is once again being tested. if once again our divisions run deep and the threat to our future is real. joe biden and the radical left have chosen a culture of grievance over greatness. >> the senate's only black republican insisting democrats "weaponize race to divide us," pitching his life story as proof of a different path forward. >> i was raised by a single mother in poverty. the spoons in her apartment were plastic, not silver. but we had faith, we put in the work, and we had an unwavering belief that we too could live the american dream. >> and he refused to take on trump. when asked if he would defeat the former president in the republic and primary buried >> i think we are better off having a conversation about beating joe biden. >> but the question among republicans right now, which candidate can actually do that? abc news poll taken after trump

the other thing about tim scott is that he has a powerful life story. one of the things he touched on in that video, take a listen. i was raised by a single mother and poverty, the spoons in our apartment. plastic not silver, but we had faith put in the work , and we have an unwavering belief that we, too, could live the american dream. i know america is a land of opportunity, not a land of oppression, millet because i've lived it. that's why it pains my soul to see the biden liberals attacking every wrong of the ladder that helped me climb. now, don one thing that tim scott doesn't have that some other 2024 republican hopefuls do is that national name recognition and that's something that this committee could help with raise his national profile before he actually formally launches and that's something he's capitalizing on. we're going to see him campaigning in some of these early voting states, iowa today, hampshire tomorrow and his home state of south carolina on friday. all right, kristen homes in washington. thank you. prison thank you so much. i h

south carolina senator tim scott serves on the senate finance and banking committees.y i got that wrong, honestly, that cannot possibly be a policy to punish people with good credit? >> it would be funny if her not talking about the greatest nation on earth. the truth is exactly right, what you said is 100% right, and biden socialist utopia. if you're able body, you don't have to work. if you commit a crime, you don't do any time. be taken alone, you don't have to pay it back. if you have bad credit you get rewarded with lower interest rates. this utopia never has existed but this is the path to socialism. it's exactly what it looks like and that's why it's so frustrating to watch the biden administration create rules, not new laws but rules that change the fabric of our country. trey: you put your finger on it. as the value the minority in the senate so there's not a lot you can do about it if it were legislation. but it's not legislation, this is a real problem get it by 70 0 administrative agencies, right? >> exactly, the good news with rules that are propagated by

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dazzle factor and i love tim scott and i think tim scott has it. buhet can he stand on the stage with donald trump and the razzle dazzle factore of of donald trump? >> i don't know that he has a personal narrative. as i said in their personaltive narrative yet to translate into a political movement. i just personal narratives are great, but they don'tt th encapsulatey de those issues tht trump entirely galvanize. so frop tom trump does have the personality desantis has a g good record . and i'm telling you, whe youn he starts presenting that peanst ia to tim scott, smart guy, it means everybody knowsere is he's running for vice h president . and not only that, where's his record ? yoecord?u it's worked out, but she's not a trump trump. look at the last governor's debate that ron desantis was i n . it wasn't impressive. i mean, donald trump stillate. my due to an election.ery good i'm talking about a debate in the debate. he wasn't very good. ecord. he didn't match the record. i think donald trump on the on the stage is incredibly good with the boss

easy tim scott - senator tim scott -- jumping in, while also still in some, ways backing this ide that former president trump is the victim of this big legal conspiracy theory where th government and all these different das that they are al trying to work against, an because they don't want him to win politically. >> well, doublespeak began wit the straight talk, and the onl reporting we have is the onl person that was crying las week for donald trump is o national tv, and it was lindse graham neal, jack smith is lookin into this fundraising. does that mean he's broadening out his investigation? that's obviously going to be o the documents. >> yeah. and before going to that, just want to pick up on yamich 's excellent point, becaus trump has not had to pick lane politically but i do thin he is going to - legally. trump has been threatening prosecutor after prosecutor fo years with all of this talk. but now he's really kind of me his match. he's got one district attorney in new york who's alread indicted him, bragg. he's got a new york attorney general, who's got a 250 million dollar ci

, so there's been a couple-foot set up and stepped on when we talk about th abortion issue right tim scott as well had some missteps as well when it came to talking about abortion john kasich's action now a msnbc political analyst said this i think that there is a good possibility of trying to reach some kind of a reasonabl compromise it's a way that frankly they need to resolve this issue i am wondering though who that would play best to, what typ of voter that would play bes to and if that's even somethin that could happen? >> it could happen in, theory don't see it playing out because we were too close to the primary process. where i would play out, fo example where a compromise could be's on medical abortion the pill that we have talked about, for a few days now an there's been a stay on this bu some are looking to ban medica induced abortions. that is ridiculous and that is something that we saw in wisconsin, also play out the fact that people want to not have extremism take over their lives or their bodies or their spouses bodies so i think that, i don't kno if there is enough time t

them privately would love to endorse tim scott, but again, donald trump's out there and trump is not anywhere. now, i don't see trump going after scott like he would -- like he would desantis i think trump may view scott as a potential vp nominee, be a very attractive nominee, somebody who is second on the ticket that is how trump will see that, somebody as a vp, not as presidential we have to see, i mean, tim scott is extraordinarily a cautious person. he's very cautious in how he speaks and approaches things he's also -- his message is optimistic, you know, that republican party is gone you know, so i think, you know, we'll have to see whether scott actually gets in and how hard he runs. >> go help your friend jake sherman with his tie i see him fussing with it behind you. garrett haake, thank you so much and joining us now is former rnc chairman, michael steele what do you think of ron desantis, is he governor scott walker >> that and then some probably look, you know, i'll just go on the record to say i'm not convinced he actually pulls the trigger on this in 2024. >> could save

would a tim scott candidacy bring to the table? what makes him stand out? well, he's certainly stands out in terms of his biography. he is the only black republican in the senate, only the second african american elected to the senate from the south since reconstruction. so his biography his roots tells an american story that he really leans into and we could see that in the video that he released this morning, and he's doing it today for a reason. this is the day april, 12th at the first shots were fired of the civil war. in his native south carolina in charleston harbor. so he uses that as a metaphor to tell the story of all the opportunities he has been given and afforded in this country, and he really also uses it to speak out against democrats. he believes the democratic party has been more divisive. so the short answer is he's different than every other republican candidate. in the race. he has deep respect. he also, though, has some more than $20 million in his federal campaign accounts from his senate races. no other candidates had that so it certai

if the title of this had who was tim scott, it would been a smaller crowd.i'm not saying there's anything wrong with marco rubio or tim scott, but the fact is trump a consequential hold on the american psyche, good and bad. he has been the most significant turnout machine in the last three elections. the 2016 election was a low turnout presidential election. 2018 set a record for a midterm last time that turnout had been that high by percentage 100 years before, and we all know who wasn't allowed to vote 100 years before 2018. so it's the highest midterm ever, most diverse electorate, the 2020 election, as david said, highest turnout, most diverse, 2020 to almost a near-record that reflective of the psychic pull and push and trauma and elation that donald trump brings to the american political conversation that makes him consequential, not just at a policy level or a political level, but a deeply psychic level. and the one thing that david and i learned as spent all this time trying to understand, not only denialism and rejectionism about elections, but why

this is just an exploratory committee, not a formal announcement as of yet, senator tim scott, thoughally very inspirational message here. it's a real contrast to former president donald trump. sometimes who has a very dark tone in his messaging and focusing on grievances. senator scott really forward looking arguing that america is a land of opportunity, not oppression, sort of aversion from what we heard of from nikki haley when she argued that america is not a racist country. he also suggests that he has no appetite to take on his fellow conservatives that he doesn't want to make this race about trump or other republicans also vying for the presidency. he says that the field of play is focusing on president biden's failures. he spoke to fox news earlier this morning. take a listen. the field of play is focusing on president biden's failures. what americans want to see is the contrast between the radical left and the blueprint to ruin america and why our policies actually work as opposed to trying to have a conversation about how to be the republican. i think we're better off having

tim scott has done just that. charlie gasparino following that. g what you think of senator scott, he has quite the following in south carolina and among the big money donors that dominate the republican party and might be sniffing around some alternatives. what are you hearing, charlie? >> i've been talking to the big money donors. there's been a little lull in his campaign. donald trump is sucking up the headlines. the indictment helped him, did not hurt him. you can see it in national polling. the whole other field of potential people that want to be the gop nominee, it's frozen them. you have scott coming out saying he's exploring. you have nikki haley announcing she's in the race although who knows how long. mike pompeo is sniffing around. you have the big kahuna, ron desantis, the florida governor. here's what i hear from gop donors that have spoken with all of these folks. okay. number 1, they're still banking on desantis running. it's not a definite. they say he's still running. he still has the best chance of beating trump, particularly on