tim sloan was excluded from that he was never in the front line, but interesting that he was interviewed in the process the stock is up today. of course, if they do settle this, it's about $3 bill bron, something behind them, regardless what did you think about the banks? clearly all down today >> unfortunately i was at solomon brothers during the '90s, and the lesson from that is you just have to get it behind you wells fargo has a market cap of $200 billion, so these number are tiny compared to the value the reputational hits have been the ones that have been difficult. i don't want to minimize this, creating these accounts was not good, but people didn't lose money in these accounts. this was bad, it should be punished, but it really is something that should be able to be settled. >> the fed asset cap was never going to be listed until you have settled with other regulators it doesn't mean one follows the other, but i don't think the latter could happen without the former >>> tom peterffy, find out if he's looking to be a buyer or seller. >>> plus investors have been hunting everywher