good australia, tim smith. good evening . thank you forjoining evening. thank you for joining us. efly, tim, you guys in australia, you didn't declare a national emergency , but you a national emergency, but you did create a military led operation called operation sovereign borders. just describe it to my viewers. please >> good evening, mayor, and good evening to your viewers around the united kingdom. very simply , operation sovereign borders was run by an army general with authority over the navy to turn around boats when safe to do so , to return illegal migrant that had come from indonesia back to indonesian waters when safe to do so and to process less illegal migrants offshore in nauru and manus island . in nauru and manus island. in virtually all cases . and if virtually all cases. and if these asylum seekers were found to be legitimate refugees , some to be legitimate refugees, some of them made their way to australia, the vast majority did not. the vast majority were either sent back to where they had originally come from or were sent to a third country and this worked .

tim smith, very hopefully named tim smith, who's been standing here in this field. there are a few more anti drug protest is over there, but the trip and he took me to see by the flags and people moving around there, about victory, 3 pets protests. and then you can just see the one chat with the enrollment flag is working out behind them. but, but mainly that here it is. it is, report is there was, well, there it is on some pro truck websites, outright truck routes that were wanting slip pro. trump, demons are just not to come because it was seen as maybe positive, a pulse to and trump for them to arrest more people. there is that, but stop perhaps that narrative and trump? well, that's perhaps even january 6th was a full slide authoration to arrested by trump's voters as possible. so that was that sense of going to stay away. this is, this could be another tropical and some outraged web spaces. but right now that it is, it is relatively quiet out here. i mean, wait for the completion of this arrange. she have many signs for that. okay, from she have over to i live

i'm very glad to be joined this evening by tim smith, the former shadow attorney general of victoria n. this seems to me to be a really important move that it reassures australia in terms of australian security , but also of australian security, but also it's the recognition that china is a real threat . is a real threat. >> well, jacob, firstly, thank you very much for having me, but this is very , very serious. it's this is very, very serious. it's very serious for britain , it's very serious for britain, it's very serious for britain, it's very serious for australia. obviously it's very serious for the states, but it's very the united states, but it's very serious stability . i serious for global stability. i mean, china's got the largest navy in the world. it's got 400 nuclear . it's got one nuclear warheads. it's got one of the largest intelligence programs in the world and they are militarising the south china sea. they are signing agreements with western pacific nations like the solomon islands. with western pacific nations like the solomon islands . they like the solomon islan

difficult standard in the law, right now, i have feeling like if you're jack smith, air feeling really good about this indictment. >> tim heaphy, jack smith is betting on the work that he did at the january six committee, what may be the most important work done by a congressional committee and congressional committee staff that you served on, because this is the first criminal referral that come of congress to the test is department about a president -- actually, it's about the kind of got a president. let's remember, all the conduct described here is conduct of donald trump while he is president at the united states. you see in this indictment things that this investigation was able to achieve what the january six committee could not. for example, mike pence's testimony. what else do you see, tim heaphy, knowing that you've been in command at this evidence longer than any of us? >> yeah, lawrence, thank you for the invitation. as i read the indictment, it sounded really familiar. it sounded pretty much like the aged 45-page that we issued. it sounded very similar to vice chair cheney's opening statement in our first h

difficult standard in the law, right now, i have feeling like if you're jack smith, air feeling really good about this indictment. >> tim heaphy, jack smith is betting on the work that he did at the january six committee, what may be the most important work done by a congressional committee and congressional committee staff that you served on, because this is the first criminal referral that come of congress to the test is department about a president -- actually, it's about the kind of got a president. let's remember, all the conduct described here is conduct of donald trump while he is president at the united states. you see in this indictment things that this investigation was able to achieve what the january six committee could not. for example, mike pence's testimony. what else do you see, tim heaphy, knowing that you've been in command at this evidence longer than any of us? >> yeah, lawrence, thank you for the invitation. as i read the indictment, it sounded really familiar. it sounded pretty much like the aged 45-page that we issued. it sounded very similar to vice chair cheney's opening statement in our first h

. >> and it is interesting to hear from tim that jack smith was not in that meeting today as well. paula, let's talk about the major deadline moments away. how significant is this? >> special counsel are seeking a protective order over sensitive information in the january 6 investigation. to be clear, this is not a gag order. this is an order to limit the former president's ability to share sensitive information over social media or in any other public forum. protective orders are very common in cases and here prosecutors are appearing to have a concern based on the former president's habit of expressing his opinions on this investigation on social media, that he may be inclined to disclose sensitive information to the public. so they want to protect his ability to do that. now his attorneys got this request late friday. they asked the judge for additional time to respond. she denied that request so they have until 5:00 this afternoon to respond. but this is a pretty tight time line. it is another example of how judge chut kan wants to move ths along quickly. >> thank you. >>> well

special counsel jack smith is requesting a protective order in the latest case over social media threats. pete: here to react, trump's attorney who oversaw the fbi search of mar-a-lago. tim here. jack smith is at the center of all this. what's your take on the approach he's taken so far? >> well, i think overall jack smith has taken a pretty careless approach. you know, from my dealings with that office for over a year both before he came in and after, they're really trying to pursue charges here as opposed to actually pursuing justice which is what the ethical obligations of prosecutors really are. in this case they brought an indictment before they even finished their investigation. when you look at the d.c. indictment, it all turns on the element of whether trump knew that the allegations he was making were false or whether he had some good faith basis to believe that there may be fraud. about a week before or the indictment, i turned over thousands of pages of records that the special counsel had never seen before that bear directly on that from bernie care act and the rudy giuliani team, and i found out two nights ago he didn't even bother reading it. he didn't even

smith special counsel are making them on available to me because you have called the coconspirators. >> so timthat is kind of interesting follow-up. you agree with jack to -- not agree with jack smith rather, by not indicting in a, does that violate trump's due process? >> no, absolutely not. it happens all the time in criminal cases. you have codefendants, one says hey, he would help me if he were to testify, but he can't because he has a privilege. that is a very common occurrence. it may affect timing, it may affect sequence. as lou said, maybe some of these people actually become cooperating witnesses. they certainly have exposure and there's leverage for jack smith to negotiate them. but it is not uncommon for a defendant to say hi and prejudice by the unavailability of a person with material information because he has a fifth amendment privilege. >> and tim, before we let you go, michael cohen is raising questions about why mark meadows and jared kushner are not named in the election indictment, suggesting that they may be cooperating. how likely is that based on your committee's interac

jack smith, merrick garland for appointing him, tim heafy. n this 45-page indictment who jack smith makes a deliberate point of pointing out over and over again weren't just republicans, they weren't just conservatives. they were die hard trump supporters who only drew the line at overturning the results of the election in their state. a line that republican members of congress were not willing to vote. after the insurrection they came back and voted to overturn the results. what does this indictment do to whatever sort of -- i don't even want to call it fragile piece, whatever the dynamics are on the hill. >> yeah, i don't think it changes the dynamics on the hill much at all because, you know, republicans have -- they've become the party of trump, and so they're in such lock step with trump that, you know, he can't lose them no matter what. even mike pence who said -- whose life was in danger by the mob that day has defended trump and said he shouldn't be indicted. so the -- so i don't see that changing much. but you're right that, you know,

you got to see the piece that jack smith really focused on, which is the material that tim hafey put out. you saw breaking into the computer system there, you saw the real life consequences to election workers that, again, was revealed and, you know, was gripping testimony in the january 6th committee, that the details of that are laid out by fani willis' indictment. so that you see not just sort of the abstract serious crimes related to the overthrow of the democratic process but how that was carried out at the state level with all of the players. so to me, it was a really interesting companion piece that operated and operates at two different levels, the sort of big picture, democratic assault and this very personal level of what it did to actual people on the ground like ruby freeman and her daughter. so really quite a remarkable document. so that's sort of the way i've been thinking about it in the short amount of time i've had to sort of process what this means in relation to the other case. >> you know, i think it makes clear that there were real human victims. i mean, the vict

strong evidence that is coming and that is why jack smith is holding a full house, not a pair of twos. >> that's gonna have to be tonight's last word. tim you very much for staying with me during this breaking news. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle is next. ie ruhle is next. live pictures of former president donald trump coming for his third arraignment informants. >> it's a bizarre thing. >> the trump gets arrested. >> well it is not the first indictment it is arguably the most important. >> donald trump has

strong evidence that is coming and that is why jack smith is holding a full house, not a pair of twos. >> that's gonna have to be tonight's last word. tim mcquade and andrew weissmann thank you very much for staying with me during this breaking news. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle is next. ruhle is next. >> live pictures of former president donald trump coming for his third arraignment informants. >> it's a bizarre thing. >> the trump gets arrested. >> well it is not the first indictment it is arguably the most important. >> donald trump has been taken into custody by the government he tried to overthrow. >> what we've been fighting for all along is accountability and justice. >> several trump supporters of being here with signs and flags. there are also a lot of people who've been carrying signs that say things like lock-up. >> we're getting realtime information from reporters that are in the medium. >> former president donald trump is standing facing the judge. he says not guilty. >> every bad thing they can get

smith over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election loss. >> that was an unprecedented result in the seat of american democracy. it was fueled by lies. tim: prosecutors say trump worked to great an atmosphere of anger leading up to the election. his allies and campaign slamming the indictment as a political smear. >> you cannot look at this and not be appalled. tim: this is the third time trump has been indicted, with another investigation underway in georgia. each case will be handled separately. >> each case will have its own calendaring, its own motions. tim: this is a expert and law professor at santa clara. >> there is nothing on the books written down stopping donald trump from being convicted and saying, well, let's say he goes to prison, and saying i urge you to vote for me, and i will be the president. tim: she currently puts trump a neck and neck battle against joe biden. >> as historic as it is, it is not going to change the 37% of the republicans who are going to go walk the plank for donald trump. tim: six co-conspirators were also named in the indictment but have not been charged. trump is scheduled to appear in court on th

tim heaphy, one of the lead counsel. they created the playbook, the road map for jack smith who came into this, not until november.es that the trump federal court proceeding, should be televised, which would be a decision by the chief justice of the united states supreme court? >> i think that's really up to -- i've had conversations about this. i just don't know. i would leave that up to the justice department. i don't give them advice. i could make the argument either way. the letter is a very powerful one about why it should happen. i think we leave that up to the justice department. as you say, that would be the chief justice of the supreme court, beyond the justice department. i think the point is right now that we just have clarity and we have respect for the legal process. and that is one of the sins of donald trump is that he has disrespected the rule of law and the judicial process in our country. that's just not right. because that is a very important pillar of our foreign policy -- not our foreign policy. i say foreign policy, because as we go into other countries, we make judgment about their rule of l

smith over his attempts to overturn the 2020 election loss. >> that was an unprecedented result in the seat of american democracy. it was fueled by lies. timprosecutors say trump worked to great an atmosphere of anger leading up to the election. his allies and campaign slamming the indictment as a political smear. >> you cannot look at this and not be appalled. tim: this is the third time trump has been indicted, with another investigation underway in georgia. each case will be handled separately. >> each case will have its own calendaring, its own motions. tim: this is a expert and law professor at santa clara. >> there is nothing on the books written down stopping donald trump from being convicted and saying, well, let's say he goes to prison, and saying i urge you to vote for me, and i will be the president. tim: she currently puts trump a neck and neck battle against joe biden. >> as historic as it is, it is not going to change the 37% of the republicans who are going to go walk the plank for donald trump. tim: six co-conspirators were also named in the indictment but have not been charged. trump is scheduled to appear in court on thur

who turned over thousands of pages of documents to jack smith's office as part of the investigation into trump's efforts to overturn the election. timank you for joining us on this, i appreciate it. i want to play for you some sound, the former president's attorney who appeared on the "today" show, john lauro, kind of staging some of the defense, it seems like we're going to be hearing in the coming months and have you react on the other side. let's listen. >> this indictment is criminalizing conduct, not speech. >> it is criminalizing speech for this reason. what the president saw in the 2020 election was all these irregularities going on. he had every right to comment on that, and act politically. in a criminal case, what they would have to show is all that speech is not entitled to first amendment protection. he'll never be able to do it. >> tim what is your reaction to that? >> you know, he's kind of hitting the point that all of these counts do require corrupt intent. they require him to know that these claims of fraud were false and be pushing them anyway. the first amendment aspect of it is not something that i really see as

difference between georgia and jack smith because it all blows together in one long new cycle of trump in trouble. is there a way for that noise, that confusion, tim, to be pushed aside? is there something that republicans, who feel that it is time to move on, can do or say, and if so, what is it? >> yeah, there is a debate in 11 days. i think his opponents will have a chance to do this. there is no evidence any of them are willing to besides chris christie, but look. i think to just paint all these republican voters with a broad brush, this is what sarah is doing, but i think there is some of this going on, saying these people are too stupid to understand what is going on with these indictments or they don't want to know the difference. that is true of a third of the party, that they don't want to know the difference, but there are about two thirds of the party that is at least open to hearing a credible maga voice. if ron desantis was making the case and saying hey, maybe the alvin bragg indictment, i don't believe this, but if they are saying that that was overkill, look at what fani willis has! this is not something you can do in an democracy.

tim. thank you so much. always good to have you on the program. appreciate it. >>> unlike jack smith's election interference case in washington, d.c., this indictment in georgia doesn't just list the former president alone. he's one of 19 co-defendants. here are some of the names that might sound familiar, former chief of staff mark meadows, former justice department official jeffrey clark, former trump campaign attorney kenneth chesebro, former members of trump's 2020 legal team, janet ellis and, yes, sidney powell, and trump's former personal attorneys john eastman and rudy giuliani. one of the series of racketeering acts listed in the indictment points to a now infamous press conference featuring giuliani alongside sidney powell where they promoted voter conspiracies in the election in georgia and other states. take a listen. >> there was a plan from a centralized place to execute these various acts of voter fraud, specifically focused on big cities. and specifically focused on, as you would imagine, big cities controlled by democrats. >> i want to bring in former federal prosecutor

jack smith did something to restore confidence in the rule of law in unimaginable ways. >> laura: tim, that is the former solicitor general for the obama administration. that is the individual who argued cases before the supreme court. so, his point is, because it's historic it must be good. we'll talk about that legal analysis for a moment. >> well, first of all, neil katial is a liar. when i went on msnbc after the trump indictment at mar-a-lago, because he didn't want to address the substance of those arguments, he lied, he made up court cases saying this was rejected by the appellate courts. for him to have any credibility whatsoever when talking about donald trump, to me is completely shot. i don't think he read that indictment before he made those statements. i mean, when you look at this thing they are talking about you have to find that he had knowledge and yet jack smith his team has not even finished their investigation, they haven't interviewed some of the most key witnesses on that point. they rushed to an indictment this week, waiting until later this month when they actu

smith wanted. carric was a very close giuliani associate. cnn exclusively caught carric and his attorney after the appearance tim parlatore as they were leaving the special counsel's office. and here is what parlatore said tried to happen in that meeting. >> it was mostly about all the efforts in between the election and january 6th of what the giuliani team is doing and really just going through all of the efforts that they took at the time to take all the complaints of fraud, see what they can do to chase him down. >> we begin our coverage tonight with katelyn polantz. she is "outfront" in washington. what more do you know about trump's argument, and what we can expect from the judge there, right? he post, if you go after me, i'm coming after you. >> reporter: there's a couple different things at play here. what we're talking about, what the fight is in court right now. it is over the material that donald trump has no access to at this time, that the justice department has that they've collected in the investigation and will give to him for trial. the justice department, those records, they want to protect all of them. they want to make sur

strong evidence that is coming and that is why jack smith is holding a full house, not a pair of twos. >> that's gonna have to be tonight's last word. tim heaphy, barbara mcquade and andrew weissmann thank you very much for staying with me during this breaking news. the 11th hour with stephanie ruhle is next. ie ruhle is next. live pictures of former president donald trump coming for his third arraignment informants. >> it's a bizarre thing. >> the trump gets arrested. >> well it is not the first indictment it is arguably the most important. >> donald trump has been taken into custody by the government he tried to overthrow. >> what we've been fighting for all along is accountability and justice. >> several trump supporters of being here with signs and flags. there are also a lot of people who've been carrying signs that say things like lock-up. >> we're getting realtime information from reporters that are in the medium. >> former president donald trump is standing facing the judge. he says not guilty. >> every bad thing they can get him convicted came out of his mouth. >> this is a very sad day for america. >> donald trump has never re

jack smith is having unintended consequences for with the ultimate goal is to take donald trump out. >> reporter: the former president's opponents have mixed reaction to this indictment. senator timin highlighted two tier justice system. on the other hand former vice president mike pence says the indictment serves as an important reminder. anyone who puts himself over the constitution should never be president of the united states. trump's attorney floated a venue change in a trial. governor desantis suggested in his statement it should not take place in dc but as mentioned, trump will appear in court tomorrow. stuart: thanks very much. molly hemingway with us this morning. i want to break down the timing of this. devon archer implicates biden, the financial scandal, tuesday trump is indicted. any coincident in the timing? >> not just that it happened this week were two other instances where you have devastating news for the biden family for release of the document that alleges a bribery scheme. hunter biden, his plea agreement blue up in court. each time those things happen, the next day, jack smith charged or added charges to trump. the timing is extremely suspicious but regard

smith's theory, that will get overturned on appeal. you know it will go to the supreme court. >> laura: it better and better be resolved correctly for the american people. david and tim. thank you. that's it. set your dvr, never miss us. remember, jesse watters is next. >> todd: "fox and friends first"ed, u.s. gas prices surging to $3.83 per gallon, record high up 31 cents from last month. what does this say about the economy? a panel will react. >> and cancelling event with kirk cameron and riley gaines, wait until you hr why and how their lawyer is responding. >> todd: did you see this? >> my family, my god. >> i wanted to bring you here. >> oh. oh. >> welcome home. >> oh, my god, thank you. >> todd: the rock surprising uufc fighter with $7 to his name with a brand-new house. video has been going viral, we have update on -- which is probably the best story we've heard in a long time. >> ashley: and it means soming to dwayne johnson, too. >> todd: you are watching "fox and friends," i'm todd piro. >> ashley: straight to a fox news alert. former president donald trump pleading not guilty for allegedly conspiring to overturn the 2024 election. >> todd: support is grow

. >> tim, you've had the bird's-eye view through the january 6th investigation on this big picture. a lot of people anticipating what jack smithht do next are looking at this from a lot of different perspectives. again, to ari's point, it could have been about the fake electors or the actual day of january 6th or the pressure campaign on mike pence to impede a congressional proceeding and stop the certification of electoral votes. the alleged crimes in so many of this process to overturn the entire election, come at it from many different angles. give me your take on where you see a possible charge coming, and which aspect of that alleged crime would be the most or perhaps even the most secure to prosecute at this stage? >> yeah, look, we spend a lot of time talking about the lawyers and the process. the facts are what really drives this. the facts here are stunning. we had an intentional plan by the former president and co-conspirators to disrupt the transfer of power and threaten democracy. jack smith has so many facts from which to choose to put in an indictment. many different criminal statutes from which to choose that wo

smith's theory, that will get overturned on appeal. you know it will go to the supreme court. >> laura: it better and better be resolved correctly for the american people. david and timyou. that's it. set your dvr, never miss us. remember, jesse watters is next. >> todd: "fox and friends first"ed, u.s. gas prices surging to $3.83 per gallon, record high up 31 cents from last month. what does this say about the economy? a panel will react. >> and cancelling event with kirk cameron and riley gaines, wait until you hr why and how their lawyer is responding. >> todd: did you see this? >> my family, my god. >> i wanted to

smith is going to put on a powerful case. knocking down the idea that there was any credible legal advice or that this man actually thought he won the election. >> tim, you worked on the january 6th select committee. how do you see it? >> reading through this indictment, wolf, it almost seems like an executive summary of the executive summary of the select committee's report. anyone who paid attention to the work the select committee did, we know tens of millions of americans did, this will be a very familiar story. there is information that the justice department was able to get. my mind goes back, where he was trying to protect communications with the president. this is a year ago, last spring, that it was more likely than not, that federal crimes have been committed herement seeing this move forward in the indictment is certainly validating for the committee's work. but it is also something that again, folks who have been watching this from the beginning shouldn't be surprised to see. >> olivia, you worked in the trump administration. give us your sense. i want you to hear what jason crow had to say about this. >> we are being tested to see if ou

tim miller is the former communications director from george w. bush's campaign and a writer at the bulwark. anthony cooler cooley -- department of justice. molly -- jong-fast and ben smith you can all address. but tim, i want to start with this christie and ramaswamy going after each other about -- trump, different side of the issues. i want to talk about that video and we will talk about that on the other side. >> chris christie, honest to god, you claim that donald trump is motivated by vengeance and grievance. it would be a lot more credible if your entire campaign were not based on vengeance and grievance against one man. and if people at home want to see -- people blindly bashing donald trump without an iota of vision for this country, they can just change the channel to msnbc right now. but i'm not running for president of msnbc. i am running for president of the united states. >> i guess, thank you for the msnbc endorsement. i don't know. we are almost into worlds, right? and i'm always struck by this. because i think democrats watch that and independents, maybe non-trump supporters, and they thought, oh, chris christie he's our guy. but he's very unpopular among

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tim, it's great to see you again. we've been speaking quite frequently, you and i. but i want to get your reaction to what has been happening between trump, jack smithkan, who denied that trump request for an extension to respond to the justice department's motion for protective order. i mean, this morning, trump attacked the judge, saying he wanted her recused from the case. the protective order was requested after he threatened, you know, i guess generally made a threat against those that may be involved in the case on social media. this kind of intimidation is common for trump. we saw him make similar attacks on people who testified before your committee, including cassidy hutchinson and others,. do you believe a protective order against trump's unnecessary as this case proceeds? >> yeah, eamonn, i believe that the judge chutkan. she's very capable. i will say that what we found repeatedly, over the course of our investigation, are that the president, the former president's tweets are not taken rhetorically by people in america, but are taken literally. we spoke to dozens of people that came to washington and ultimately ended up at the capitol be

tim scott. the truth is joe biden isn't involved in any indictments of donald trump. he won't even comment on them. his attorney general, merrick garland, outsourced at this latest investigation to special counsel jack smithoid any perception of politicization or weaponization. and that is for hunter biden, a trump-appointed attorney david weiss, again given huge freedom and discussion by garland who did -- upset congressional republicans. again, to quote bill barr of all people, you may not like this case, but it's a legitimate case. it's not weaponization. number four, what trump did pressuring mike pence to throw out votes was not a violation of the law, it was just a technical violation of the constitution. those don't count, apparently. this is the newest defense of trump rolled out by his newest lawyer, john lauro, on meet the press this morning. >> a technical violation of the constitution is not a violation of criminal law. that is just plain wrong. >> what? what? i will leave the rebuttal this wanted him about it congressman jamie raskin, a constitutional law professor himself, who also appeared on meet the press shortly afterwards. >> first of, all a technical violation of the constitution is a

tim burton directed police big adventure, and had the weirdest and biggest kid show on tv, kiwis playhouse. it's accessed on peewee herman, also helped usher others to fame. lawrence fish burn, natasha lyon, jimmy smithparate guilty plea on in this charger real's career for sometime, but his talent always found a home. they interviewed peewee herman on 2011 in the next day he would ask if i would appear in a digital short for saturday night live. it's worth checking out online, we don't have all the time to play it. basically, he had made two shots and then assault me on the street. >> this is the best night of my life andy. hey look! it's anderson cooper! yes. anderson. >> andy has it gone. can i ask you a question? . do you know >> geno barbara walters. >> anderson! [inaudible] [laughter] >> you are a bad bad influence on each other. >> we are not! >> oh really? >> you are amazing. [laughter] >> you almost hit me in the eye. >> do you know what would happen if i lost these? they are a national treasure! >> they are. >> every year after that i would get the funniest and

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so we've had of tim loughton, had sort of tim loughton, one conservative iain conservative backbencher, iain duncan both criticising duncan smithth criticising the french police. they say they've been given £500 million of british taxpayers to money stop this happening and their own policy is getting in the way of stopping that flow of migrants crossing the channel. meanwhile of course we've had labour saying that that generally only the conservative government's migration policy is in mess . government's migration policy is in mess. i mean, you can see in a mess. i mean, you can see where coming from. where they're coming from. 100,000 now 100,000 migrants have now crossed 2018. crossed the channel since 2018. we saw 755 cross on a single day on thursday . but labour's plan on thursday. but labour's plan is to is to make a deal's agreement with the eu. well, that's all very well, but when we were in the eu, more migrants were crossing the channel than is happening now. the dublin convention , which was supposed convention, which was supposed to migrate coming to stop migrate agents coming over to when we were in over to britai

tim miller is the former communications director from george w. bush's campaign and a writer at the bulwark. anthony cooley -- department of justice. molly jong-fast and ben smithher question that we can all dress. but tim, i want to start with this christiane ramaswamy really going after each other about defending trump, back and forth, different sides of the issues. i want to play that video, and we'll talk about it on the other side. >> chris christie, on us to god, your claim that donald trump is motivated by vengeance and grievance would be a lot more credible if your entire campaign were not based on vengeance in grievance against one man. [crowd cheering] people at home want to see -- blindly bashing donald trump without an eye or a vision for the channel, they can just change the channel to msnbc right now. but i'm not running for president against msnbc. i'm running as president of the united states. >> i guess, thank you for the msnbc endorsement. i don't know. ramaswamy is in two worlds, i'm always struck by this, because i think democrats watch that, independents, maybe non-trump supporters and i think, oh, maybe chris christie is our guy, right? bu

that the smith team has no reluctance to supersede its indictment in the southern district of florida. so could that happen here. sure. if mr. trump continues to target witnesses, right, for in-timnt. and if the government decides that the conduct is serious enough and they can prove his corrupt intent, they can charge him with that too. so it might be completely appropriate. there is only so much a judge can do. he is running for president, so he is going to talk whether we like it or not. he will continue to talk and post. but what he talks about and what he posts about could have serious legal consequences. either as you point out bail revocation which is a possibility, and i don't think that you want to test this judge on that too many times, or if he continues to commit federal crimes, more federal charges. >> what we saw in the case where the judge said he raped e. jean carroll, he continued to defame her. and so again maybe he thinks he is immune in all of this and he can do whatever he wants. >> or maybe it is a delay tactic. like if you throw on so many charges, does it delay it down the road. >> and as chuck said, this is why you don't represent donald trump because he