small town corruption joining us now to discuss his book blue mafia is writer editor and researcher tim tolka thank you for joining us to em. you for having me want to start and in your book you quote a named resident award told a local journalist there to the one who thinks you said quote to the one who thinks warren was better off when the mob ran it consider this one of the mob still runs the show it's an interesting statement can you tell us a little bit about war in the kimball incident and what led it to being a place with such a. dark and questionable history with the police. well worn is like many other small towns in america it's unchanging there's a concentration of power and the police were not questioned and my investigation showed that. these problems went back decades and that the black community had been talking about them for ages but nobody would listen and it took a outsider as well as a viral video to bring attention to this small town but what i learned was that there are many towns just like warren whose problems are been swept on the road. so it's not like mayberry anymo