what we started out doing, timeclock, it is not what we do today. transitions. the i think that applies to everybody that is out there. >> do you think the mobile industry is changing as quickly as it will a changing? brings a so-called over the top thing. it could have been developed by a carrier. but it wasn't. thatdidn't want to give up the revenue. people will have to be on fundamental, more than they have. how do you feel concretely about the mobile industry and how they are doing? >> i think there are examples of people who are moving very fast. there has been a lot of change in this industry and related industries for quite some time. you can look at a short snapshot. this whole industry. i think it is better to think of it as an ecosystem. that is evidenced by how many people are from different parts of that. i think it is moving along very fast, but i also think there is also -- but there will be many benefits as they put new models. you will see a lot of this creativity and innovation come. in barcelona. up next, we will be speaking with david kirkpatr