the cia contract it timman that can come up with the idea of enhanced interrogation techniques with otherorrible things. and they were paid $1 million to come up with this. these two guys kept telling us they day and they kept paying them. this isn't working it is illegal is a huge civil war within the agency. >> when they started to interrogate or torture him so that they could stir this in advance? moore their repercussions?. >> i believe they started in a couple days the my co-author believes it happened right after so that is a gray area. and how that was approved it is still legal to water board someone with those japanese soldiers for water boarding but yet there is another one that contradicts it so especially being a law professor i cannot understand how that got so jumbled. >> after everything bad is into word. twenty-five of profile person but definitely has to much information connected with the central intelligence agency they cannot charge them with a crime because of that. they cannot give him due process because of who he is so he is sitting in legal limbo with no human rig