> bill timmons? >> yes. >> erp founder of that. y didn't you call it korologos and timmons? >> they were trade out fits and all kind of groups. we wanted to be lobbies and do it all. i didn't pretend to be an area gnat cal expert or a pharmacist for the drug company. we came up with the name federal services u. one of our part nesters in went to register at the district and there is a firm like that that sells toilet paper to the federal government. so we had to quick change our name before midnight to get it in there so we said timmons and company. >> how long did you do timmons and company? >> i was there 27 years in various forms. then we lifted out of there when rumsfelled called and said i was at the university of utah giving their commencement, got an honorary degree and i remember giving this talk i will serve this country wherever called. i was born and raised four blocks from here in my dad's bar. and the phone rang and i went back to the hotel to change shirts and he said pack your bag, you

we had to change our name before midnight to get it in there so we did timmons and company. >> how long were you there? >> 27 years. and we lifted out of there when rumsfelled called and i was at the university of utah giving their commencement. i remember giving this talk that said i will serve this country wherever called. i was born and raised in my dad's bar. and he said pack your bags you are going to iraq. so i lifted out of there in 2003 and went to iraq. >> go back to the time you were a lobbyist, how often did you help shepherd through nominations in the senate? >> probably from the first day. i really began when i was working with senator bennett. nixon suddenly became president in 1972 and he september up two mormons. david kennedy for treasury and george romney for had you had. and senator bennitt knew them both so i was his administrative assistant. we didn't have chiefs of staff. and i helped them with the confirmation going through paperwork and confirmations which in those days was a piece of cake compared to today. >> what do you mean by piece of cake? >> the president

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