murrah building in oklahoma city, bomber timothy mcveigh is approaching his getaway car, a beatup 1977 mercury marquis he purchased for $250. a car so broken down that it nearly strands mcveigh, threatening to hinder his getaway. >> i got in the car, cranking it over, i pumped the gas like one half pump, i'm thinking [ muted ], you're smelling gas, you're draining the battery, it's flooded, hold it to the floor. it started right up, so i'm gunning it, try to go warm it up, it's not going anywhere. i'm, okay, i'm about five minutes from the blast, you don't want to be apprehended in oklahoma city five minutes after. >> it's fairly remarkable to listen to him talking about how he finally gets things started. meanwhile, there's absolute carnage behind him. but then he pulls that old beater onto the highway. >> i pulled out, stopped at every stoplight in all direction, using my directions with normal speed. again, i'm military, you've got this adrenaline pumping, but you force yourself to stay calm and for the be noticed. >> if you were to be up in a traffic helicopter liking down, you wou

army sergeant, timothy mcveigh, who looked to many like the kid next door.onight msnbc will debut a documentary with audio recordings that have never been heard in public before, that reveal timothy mcveigh's own chilling confession. some are bracing to hear. our report from our justice correspondent pete williams. >> reporter: two days after the oklahoma city bombing, the world got its first look at timothy mcveigh as federal agents took him into custody. he would later say he was determined to look proud on his murderous attack on the government. >> i had to concentrate where the steps were going to be without dipping my head down. people would take dipping my head down as a sign of defeat or something. >> reporter: that is mcveigh's voice recorded in 1999 in a federal prison in colorado by reporter and author lou michele. excerpts from their hours of conversations will be heard tonight for the first time in an msnbc documentary. michele calls the audio tapes valuable history. >> can you imagine if lee harvey oswald had the chance to spill his guts. or joh

here is a preview of "the mcveigh tapes." >>> in january 1993, timothy mcveigh is frustrated by the deadence he's endured since leaving the army and he is still shaken by his experiences in the gulf war. eager to figure out his mission in life, mcveigh packs up his car and says good-bye to his quiet hometown of pendleton, new york. >> i lasted at home for one year and one month. i said [ bleep ] this whole neighborhood. this ain't for me. i don't have a place here. i haven't found a love. and then i hit the road. >> the odyssey that he was living in the early '90s was really bizarre. he thought nothing of getting in his car and driving hundreds or even thousands of miles. and he was searching for something. >> as a guy, who i think had a lot of trouble relating to other people, that was a world that was very kind of amenable to him. >> he was gathering inspiration and information for what he thought was his mission in life. he wasn't going to be the super soldier, so who aways going to be now? >> mcveigh's mission is still unclear but he's beginning to hone in on his main focus of fury,

timothy mcveigh was one person.d a few people around him who assisted him on this, but it was really his driving force. the most difficult thing from a law enforcement point of view is trying to find that lone wolf, whether it's timothy mcveigh or eric rudolph a few years later with the series of bombings that he perpetrated. not as deadly, but nonetheless terrifying to people. and this kind of rhetoric. all it has to do is touch one or two people who are unhinged and we can see this same kind of thing blow up again. as i said, we've had people who have had bombs before and other agendas, but the frightening thing is to give people a platform that seems to legitimize what they're doing, and they can feel they are patriots in causing disasters and killing people. and not criminals. >> you know, all a sobering kind of assessment. i just want to dot the i here. are all of you, or any of you or all of you concerned that we are heading toward a serious act of violence in the next few years? or serious attempts, large-sca

but of course, april 19 has another more somber significance. 15 years ago today, timothy mcveigh blew up the murrah federal building in oklahoma city, killing 168 people. later in the show, we'll hear from some of the youngest survivors of that, and dig in to the shocking case of a pair of home grown extremists that some are cull calling the new mcveigh. that coming up as well. and then on another front, one big reason i think a lot of people disfr frutrust our gover wall street, the sec charges may have taken place at goldman sachs. we'll talk to one man who said he saw all of this coming. eliot spitzer once known as the sheriff of the wall street who later resigned amid something of a scandal. he will be here as well. we've got a lot to go get to tonight. the big international story tonight continues to be worldwide disruption because of the huge cloud of volcanic ash hovering over europe. a handful of planes did take off today, and more flights are due to depart tomorrow. but after five days of travel chaos, the icelandic volcano that started it all is not done yet. take a look. >>

. >> 15 years ago today, timothy mcveigh was concerned because he did not feel that the government was listening to him so he responded with the oklahoma city bombing. >> i will support and defend the constitution of the united states of america. >> at a larger rally in see, they said today is about patriotism, not terrorism. this family drove from kentucky with their six children. >> i carry my gun most of the time wherever i go. my husband and i both do. >> they say that right is threatened and must be protected. >> of the house could vote this week on abc voting rights bill including language that he essentially guts what is left of dc's anti-gun law. >>> gun rights is the topic of feet pulse poll. go to wjla.com to cast your vote. >>> the supreme court justices are sharply divided over and on campus christian student group. the college refuses to legally recognize the christian legal society because they will not admit gays or non christians. being forced to admit somebody who does not support their believes is a threat to their beliefs. other justices said this could open the door

. >>> timothy mcveigh's account of the seconds after he bombing a federal building in oklahoma city. >>> a 70-year-old good samaritan interrupting a robbery. >>> another cool morning, we have frost on the flowers west and rain on the flowers everywhere coming up this week when news4 at 11 returns. >>> a gunman opened fire at a hospital in knoxville, tennessee, killing one woman and injuring two others before killing himself. a s.w.a.t. team locked down the hospital. it soon became clear there was only one gunman. all three victims worked at the hospital. but the gunman did not. his motive isn't yet clear. police say he took a taxi to the hospital before the shooting. >>> hundreds of people rallied in washington and northern virginia to remind the government about their constitutional right to bear arms. one group rallied in alexandra. many of the speakers carried loaded guns. that is because of a new law that allows weapons in national parks. at the washington monument those in attendance were unarmed. they said their concern is not about race or political background, but rather prot

it was attacked as supposedly characterized him all returning the vets as potential timothy mcveigh's. it was withdrawn ultimately by janet napolitano. . . host: and they were arrested as they were about to invade for good in central texas to kill as many people as they could because they believed that foreign troops were being trained their to assist in martial law on the united states and so on. these are ultimately where these kinds of conspiracy theories lead. of course, there are pilots, eu pilots and other military officials that are trained over here as various cooperation programs. that is not a secret. that does not mean that fema is running concentration camps or anything else like that. host: a stake a call from don in michigan -- let's take a call from john in michigan. caller: may i call you market? guest: -- may i call you mark? guest: absolutely. caller: thank you. obama set out on just it was when he was running for president and when he becomes president he keeps the dollar in tax, the policy. -- keeps it all intact, the policy. when they passed it, bush and cheney, t

up until now, timothy mcveigh has never been heard publicly admitting to setting the bomb.ped confession, part of a two-hour documentary hosted by rachel maddow. it is chilling to say the least. there was one interview with him on "60 minutes," but he never admitted his role. in listening to this and we'll play a little bit of it, how do you come to grips with the mental quality here, sinister quality of this evil? >> one of the things i was worried about in this project is i don't want timothy mcveigh to get a soap box. upon hearing these tapes, he's not doing persuade anybody. he's comes across as repellant, as a soes owe path. completely callous to humanity that he stole with this act, but he is very calm and cool and collected in the way that he planned and strategized this event. >> this is a bit of audio. in the documentary, there is a simulation of what he looked like. this is basically his voice. >> exactly his voice. >> got this adrenaline pumping, but you force yourself to stay calm and -- pulled to the right, which is right at the time. the stoplight -- and i swe

american legion attacked it as characterizing all returns vets as potential timothy mcveighs. they wouldn't do anything that. it was known in janet napolitano in political characterization. >> host: there are programs in the u.s. military where troops from various countries come over here to train with u.s. troops. but they are not actually deployed here, are they? >> guest: no, that's absolutely right. but these kinds of fears have ended in criminal violence a number of times. i remember back in 1997 when i am not mistaken two men were arrested who had been principals in the militia movement, they were arrested as they were about to invade fort food -- fort hood to kill as many people as they could, because they believed foreign troops were being trained there. so there is ultimately where these kinds of conspiracy theories are. of course, there are eu pilots and other military officials who are trained over here as part of various cooperations programs. that's not a secret. that doesn't mean that we are running concentrations camps or nick like that. >> host: let's take the

a climate in which people who are vulnerable to violence, because they are disoriented, like timothy mcveighare more likely to act. we shouldn't demonize the government or public employees or elected officials. we can disagree, harshly criticize. when we turn them into an object of none -- demonization you increase the number of threats. >> sean: is the democratic party so disparate it has to bring back scare tactics. dick morris is here. i'll get into this congresswoman michelle bachmann who has been particularly targeted by the democrats. i'll get into this with her. he pardoned people we have on video making bombs. faln terrorist. he sat silently with the relationship with bill ayers and wright. >> let's understand what was timothy mcveigh's motivation? god knows what was going on in that crazy head of his. there's some speculation and he himself said, that it was the reaction to the waco takeover. bill clinton orchestrated that takeover. in fact, was so ashamed about what he did in waco, he was not going to appoint janet reno to a second four year term. she told him a meeting before the

it doesn't mean that anybody in the movement right now is the next timothy mcveigh, but it does meanthe risk. >> rachel, thank you very much. >> thank you, matt. >> you can watch "the mcveigh tapes" at 9:00 pm eastern time. we're baas >> live, local, late-breaking, this is wbal-tv news in baltimore. >> good morning, and i m mindy basara. a baltimore father is behind bars after admitting to beating his two-year-old daughter to death. he is charged with first and second-degree murder. police responded for an unresponsive child on saturday. she was beaten with a belt on her father after allowing the dogs into the house. >> me, him, and the baby were members of the church. he recently went into scored very high on his ged. he turned his life around. >> there has been no mention of the child's mother. he was on parole for >> good morning. it is a chilly start on this monday. is this a little below the mark concerning the average tied at 66. it will be warmer than it was over the weekend. over the next couple days the clouds will thicken, and we will see some rain chores on wednesday and t

the people he is connecting timothy mcveigh to -- >> bill: i got that my criticism, mary katharine, tointon is about a possible terror attack. >> well, i think that certainly the chances of an al qaeda or radical islamist attack are more present, i think, than a domestic militant threat. i think it's fine to keep an eye "on that kind of thing. he is part of a process where they are trying to freeze speech in some ways to chill free speech and say to these people if you keep talking, right. >> bill: go ahead, juan, wrap it up for us. >> i think what you did was legitimate. i may have points of disagreement about it, bill, i think it's legitimate to criticize government policy and point out its weaknesses and inefficiency. actually, i think clinton says he embraces that kind of debate if the government is spending too much, spending too much, taxing too much, that's healthy, that's good debate. when you get to the point where you are using inflammatory rhetoric and at the time i think this is the difference where you and i stand with regard to this weather underground thing. that's way o

that's all because the tea party movement, all these timothy mcveigh wanna-bes -- >> timothy mcveighill press, what's that all about? >> you know what? i just have to say, i hope sean hannity misspoke. i know they hate government. i hope they don't hate it that much. but, you know, ed, the real question is, is the tea party movement an effective force? i don't think they are. look, they're a bunch of retired, oldfarts who have no organization, no money, no leadership, no message and pat can tell you of all people what it's like to run with a rag tag party like that. hey, pat, it doesn't get you very far does it? >> well, i mean, bill, let me tell you. that's why the democratic party is in trouble. >> we're not in trouble. >> you just had a long string of insults to a great number of people, some of whom are democrats. awful lot of whom are independents. >> not many. >> some republicans who are upset about government and you're smearing them. now, harry reid called them evil mongers. that's just stupid. a lot of those folks voted for barack obama when he was at 70%. but obama is tryin

. >> let me ask president clinton what words caused timothy mcveigh to act? name one. want to know what words and who spoke them? all i've ever heard is timothy mcveigh was outraged over the government invasion led by janet reno of the branch davidian compound in waco, texas, and the murrah building was blown up later. he was not inspired by anybody areas words, mcveigh was inspired by mr. clinton's deeds. >> if you want perspective for timothy mcveigh's motivation to bomb the oklahoma city federal building, look no further than the second amendment march. the one held yesterday in washington, d.c. on the anniversary of that bombing. >> i look around. it is so good to see all these terrorists out here. janet napolitano, she figured as governor of arizona we didn't have a border problem. but she knows who the real enemy is. bill clinton has been running cover for her, too. watch out how you guys speak out there. words can have consequences. remember oklahoma city? yeah, i do. i also remember the waco barbecue that your attorney general gave us. thanks a lot. we're in a

that hasn't been seen since the days of timothy mcveigh.hat's not to draw a parallel, but we need to be aware of the forces we are playing with. >> everything seems to be politicized these days. you can politicize, you know, oklahoma city or anything, even the educational special we did. but some things are not right and left. some things are just about truth. listen, what is the truth everyone's trying to figure out when it comes to leaders, congressmen being spat upon? that's the accusation. or bad things being said about them, racial epithets. i want you to listen to ann coulter on "larry king live" on thursday night and then we'll talk about it. >> there's a $100,000 offer, if anyone can produce a tape, and there are photo cameras all over those people walking out. if you can show somebody saying the "n" word, well, then you can win $100,000 if you can produce that tape, because there is no tape of it. >> okay, listen, john. we have the tape here at cnn. i saw it on cnn's "state of the union," where they highlighted it, where he walks b

for people like timothy mcveigh.bled by that was a very alienated person and was highly vulnerable to the suggestions and implications of the most militant rhetoric of the time. lots of other things happened after oklahoma city. we had to put more barriers around federal buildings. against my strong desires, i gave then to the unassailable logic that we had to close pennsylvania avenue because the white house is a very old building. i saw the schematics of what would happen if timothy mcveigh 's fertilizer bomb and pickup truck were parked in front of the white house. pennsylvania avenue is farther away from the white house and the bomb was away from the murrah building and still, because of the construction, they said it would blast out the windows and collapsed the west wing. there'd be potentially calamitous consequences for the government. so we restricted access to pennsylvania avenue. but most of the consequences of this week cannot fully appreciate. first of all, oklahoma city and back again people profoundly.

it's 16 years ago, timothy mcveigh robbed all of them of their childhood and their ability to grow up with their families and that is something that obviously can never be replaced for those families, and in later years, he was very braidsen about saying it didn't matter to him at all that he had taken the life of children, and of mothers 57bd fathers, that -- and father, that was inconsequential that he in his twisted mind wanted to achieve there. but these are the survivors, these are the ones who were left with that memory of what he did to that community and to our country on that day. bill: for the 15th year, we have now reached the moment in oklahoma city. >> we come here to remember those who were killed, those who survived, and, those changed forever. may all who leave here, know the impact of violence, may the memorial offer comfort, strength, peace, hope, and, serenity. please join me in 168 seconds, of silence. >> it is springtime in oklahoma city and the birds in the background and we remember the 168 who were killed that day, more than 600 who were injured, i mentioned ti

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the country that he says is similar to the one or two years before this bombing precipitated timothy mcveighanch davidian siege down in waco, texas. it was a reflective day, powerful ceremony. highly recommend folks to come to oklahoma city to see this memorial. a serene, powerful place, tamron. >> yes, it is. ron, i read interesting information that more than 200 children had parents killed in that awful attack. of those, many of them received scholarship money and two-thirds have gone on to college and other educational programs. in the midst of all this pain and sadness, i wanted to point that information out to the audience. some of those children were able to go forward and get an education and move forward with their futures. >> reporter: right. one thing to remember, the heart heals over time but there's always a hole that time cannot fill. there were some speakers that got up, one young man talked about his mom, passed on but not forgotten. a sister that read the name of her sister with a lot of emotion. that pain is still there, although they have had the time to heal as much as the

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msnbc aired a special on oklahoma bomber timothy mcveigh. the host went on jon stewart's program. listen. >> the dark side is that he really did see himself as part of an anti-government movement in the united states. we have that to a greater or lesser degree over time in the u.s.. right now i think we are experience ago up swing in anti-government extremism. not to say the next mcveigh is out there but it is to say people should not be encouraging violence against government institutions and people. >> as i recall, mcveigh blew up the murrah federal building because he was angry over janet reno, bill clinton's attorney general sending in the federale's to the waco compound. >> clinton helped himself to get he reelected by blaming oklahoma city on rush limbaugh and trying to do it again to help the democrats in 2010. transparent tactic. nice to see abc news and jake tapper will be there with him every step of the way. >> the tea party movement is what she seems to be talking about, tantamount to blowing up the federal building? >> i think that's the subtext of what she was saying

i can't believe he was comparing the tea parties to timothy mcveigh.pe they don't hate it that much. >> yes. >> here is what disturbs me, contessa, is all of those people out there applauded. he might as well have called them unabombers and they applauded. >> thanks, guys. >> all right. >>> what's the key to a successful small business? i'm going to talk with someone who says business owners could learn a thing or two from the achish way of life. plus a video we're talking about all day. what made a little boy burst into tears while hearing beyonce's "single ladies?" >> you're not a single lady, buddy. oh, yeah you are. yes you are. we know why we're here. to chart a greener path in the air... and in our factories. to find cleaner, more efficient ways to power flight. and harness our technology... for new energy solutions. around the globe, the people of boeing are working together, to build a better tomorrow. that's why we're here. ♪ ♪ but i am holding half an acre ♪ ♪ torn from the map of michigan ♪ ♪ i am carrying this scrap of paper ♪ ♪ that can cr

they will bring up timothy mcveigh and put that he party in a category like him. what you are doing is spreading it. you are making it worse for everyone. that is what you are doing? host: where are the 400 troops from the united nations? where are the station in the united states? caller: there are all across the country in different areas. you have the training. you have them working with the federal government. all this stuff is happening. host: mark potok, anything to what barbara had to say? guest: the whole idea of foreign troops being prepared, this is very much part of the idea they will help impose martial law and so on. the report that was referred to was up and that came out of the

timothy mcveigh was convicted the plotting and detonating the bomb. he was later executed. >>> today also marks the 17th anniversary of the fiery end to the standoff at the branch davidian compound in waco, texas. the compound was burned to the ground. the government claims members of the cult started the fire. four atf agents and 80 branch dav difficu davidians were killed. >>> the first couple of poland was put to rest yesterday. the president and his wife were among 96 people killed last weekend in a plane crash. president obama had planned to attend the funeral but his plane was grounded because of iceland's volcanic eruption. >>> the child sex abuse scandal facing the church is overshadowing the occasion. pope benedict expressed sorrow yesterday. the pope met with eight men in malta. they say they were molested by priests when they were children living in the orphanage. there's been a wave of accusations in recent months that the church failed to take action against pedophile priests and covered up their abuse. one of the men said the pope had te

>> this is what they learned about timothy mcveigh in new york city. you can be part of a group and the group doesn't take action, but there can be guys who say you aren't extreme enough for me and they take matters into their own hands. >> how good is the government at knowing who these people are, tracking them, understanding the differences? are we more sophisticated about this than we used to be? >> we seem to be, and this is an example where they were ahead of it and acted pre-ementtively. but you can't assume that it will always be that way. the f.b.i. learned through the events that culminated in the oklahoma city bombing, which killed 185 people, that you have to pay attention not only to groups, but to individuals, that you have to infiltrate early. they also have said in a bulletin as recently as six months ago that as good as they are at getting into these groups through electronic means, the groups have gotten better at encrypting their communications and making it harder for the government to track. the government has new weapons as well,

soil took place. 168 people were killed when timothy mcveigh exploded truck bomb outside the federal building in oklahoma city. survivors, family members, and hundreds of others will commemorate the anniversary. the ceremony will begin shortly before the time the bomb went off on april 19, 1995. >> hard to believe its 15 years. coming up, some good news for frequent fliers. carry on charges will not be the new norm for most major carriers. >> also, cutting congestion on one of our area's busiest highways. local leaders want to hear from you about it. >> a car rolled over at colesville road at university blvd.. lisa baden will have the latest. ♪ [ male announcer ] the cadillac laurel sales event. featuring the all-new srx. ♪ with available glide-up navigation. and ultraview sunroof. ♪ see your cadillac dealer soon. because while there is no expiration date on achievement, on rewarding it, there is. the srx luxury collection. captioned by the national captioning institute --www.ncicap.org-- >> good morning. brian vskies are clear. temperatures have dropped in roslyn. i have to tell you

pete williams has a special report about the taped confessions of convicted bomber timothy mcveigh. that's tonight at 7:00. >> there was a tribute today to 97 american men and women who served in the vietnam war and who died prematurely as a result of that service. their names are not among the 58,261 names inscribe the on the vietnam vets memorial on the wall in the mall. only those who died in combat can be included of those wall. families of the 97 veterans say their deaths are due to physical or emotional wounds they sust n sustained in vietnam. it's for them the vietnam veterans memorial foundation created in memory day. >>> finally tonight, a family of ducks was spotted on the grounds of the white house today. the family appears to be a mother and at least six ducklings. they were seen outside the white house briefing room today. they appeared to be trying to navigate a set of steps which apparently is not so easy when you're young and duckling sized. don't you know what? they made it. each one of them. mom did not help out. it was like, you've got tot grow up one of these day

and to suggest the tea party has anything in common, even obliquely, with timothy mcveigh isnstrating for smaller government and attending protests and he wasn't voting. he was a terrorist and he was trying to violently overthrow the united states government and that is not anywhere close to what is going on in the streets today and given bill clinton's party affiliation and his wife's role in the administration it sound like a partisan put down of the tea party movement. and i think the president is off base en doing that. >> juliet: he clarified and said he wasn't saying there shouldn't be dissent or argument, even maybe passionate argument, but, he said, that he was saying, you know, look, be careful. don't go overboard. >> what does it mean? everybody knows, you shouldn't go overboard. that is why i say it is a platitude and doesn't go to the heart of what is going on, i mean, why doesn't he also speak to president obama who mocks the tea party? who mocks the protesters? why doesn't he tell president obama don't mock the dissent and frankly, this administration has a habi

was are more likely to act is. >> shannon: timothy mcveigh, of course, was one of the men responsible killed and three others wounded in a helicopter crash in northern iraq. the helicopter went down late last night. the cause of the crash is under investigation and for now officials do not believe it was caused bienmy fire. the name of the deceased soldier is being withheld until his family is notified. >>> in march of 2004, four blackwater contractors were ambushed and killed in fallujah. their charred dead bodies found hanging from a bridge. when a team of navy seals caught the suspects behind the attack, they were the ones that faced charges. some of the charges have been dropped but the fight is far from over. the attornecolonel, thank you g in today. your client has take and polygraph test which he passed and is still facing trial on a number of counts. tell bus the status of his case and what happens next? >> his case is set for norfolk for may 3rd. his two brothers are already in baghdad. their cases are set to go to trial on tuesday and following that trial another trial as we

timothy mcveigh was executed in 2001. some in washington are drawing parallel between mcveigh anti-government sentiment and those expressed with a political group in the news a lot. senior political analyst brit hume has thoughts on that. >> hey, bret. president obama finds the tea party movement complaint amusem. bill clinton thinks the language of the movement is dangerous. "time" magazine joe klein thinks sarah palin and glenn beck, tea party favorites are bordering on sedition. whoa! the president says the tea partiers ought to thank him, because many if not most of them got a tax break, courtesy of his stimulus package. in his condescension, he does not grasp that the tea party see mountain of debt piling up under the congress and president as a threat to their prosperity and their children and grandchildren. they see huge tax increases ahead. who can blame them? mr. clinton is engaged in a replay of the post-oklahoma city comments of 15 years ago when as president he cleverly linked political anger that months earli

timothy mcveigh the bomber killed 168. on the second anniversary of waco which was not an accident he was very agitated. >> greta: you have had tea party people on the air and they are people full of passion. i've not met one who thought that he or she should be violent. there's always the risk in every group, i don't care what group it is, of some whack job somebody who is nuts and taking full advantage of the situation and committing the most unthinkable acts. >> yeah. if it were to happen. it would be instantly politicized. after oklahoma city, clinton gave a speech talking about the purveyors of hate and paranoia, referring clearly to talk radio at the time. my experience going to a number of tea party rallies, the latest being yesterday, is that you hear a lot about federal spending. you mary about the deficit, a lot about taxes, health care reform. they don't like what is going on. but, in terms of violent rhetoric, don't hear it. >> greta: what brought gnaw discussion, the violent rhetoric? what provoked that? the a

. >> oklahoma city bomber timothy mcveigh was executed in 2001.iend, terry nichols is serving multiple sentences in prison. >>> four federal agents were killed during that raid in 1993. 76 members of the group, including leader david caresch died in a consequent fire. both blamed each other for firing the first shot. >>> the largest powerball jackpot is up this week. possibly is now played in d.c., maryland, virginia and 40 other states. >>> it's going to be another cool april evening across our region. meteorologist topper shutt on the terrace with your out and about forecast. >> if we could shake these winds it would be nicer but still can't complain. temperatures in the 60s. between 6:00 p.m. and 9:00 p.m. we're looking at temperatures facial mild. may be a shade below average but lots of sunshine or clear skies and temperatures anywhere from the upper 50s to upper 60s. winds are brisk northwesterly at 10 to 15 but again they will subside after midnight. >> ready for the old county closeup. we will start out west. sunshine tomorrow, a few cloud

an army veteran, timothy mcveigh, was eventually caught, convicted and executed.id it was an act of revenge against the u.s. government. frank keating was oklahoma's governor. he's here now. governor, good to see you again. first, just a simple question. you were in charge of the state on that horrible day. you came to learn about a rawness in the culture, at least in this individual. how do you compare, when you hear people talking now about an angry america, frustration in america, the threat of domestic terrorism in america. what's your sense of the then and now? >> well, i don't really see a very direct or accurate comparison, john. i mean, back when i was in fbi in the early '70s, it was the sds, the weather underground, the black panther party, hate spewing and some real violence in the street. obviously, the tax protester movement, branch davidian compound. that's the reason in 1993, the atf and fbi action there that mcveigh, who killed all these wonderful neighbors of mine, wanted revenge. i mean, the reality is we have had, unfortunately, a lot of violent

timothy mcveigh was convicted of plotting and detonating the bomb laettnerer executed.he bombing was the deadliest terrorist attack on u.s. soil till 9/11. today marks the 17th anniversary of the fiery end of the standoff at the branch davidian compound near waco, texas. the fbi stried to end the standoff between the buildings are cult and the government. the government claims members of the cult started the fire. four atf agents and 80 branch davidians were killed during the ordeal. david koresh was among them. >>> with all the economic troubles this country has seen, it seems fewer people are putting their trust in the government. a new survey found that public confidence in the federal government is at its lowest point in a half century. nearly 80% of those surveyed said they can't trust the government and have little faith it can solve our nation's problems. only 22% said they felt that they could trust washington. almost always or most of the time. and nearly half said the government negatively affects their daily lives. >>> take a look at our forecast now. let's g

what happened with timothy mcveigh and the militia groups. >> at time, though, if they believed that this kind of language could lead to that sort of thing they should have said something. >> it is ridiculous. millions of people at tea party rallies. i would make the opposite point. this has been one of the most peaceful civic, civil organizations of mass citizens in the united states. can you find one or two citizens in the recent history of the united states. i think attacking them in this way is really wrong. it is not just foolish. it is an attempt to demonize the movement. >> chris: let's put up the new york times poll. it is quite interesting. put it up on the screen. they found 18%, 18% of americans now identify themselves as tea party supporters. other polls have it higher. and it also turns out that they are wealthier and better educated than most americans. i mean this is not a lu. in tic fringe. >> and that means they are more likely to vote. >> they are also older. >> they are older and the kind of people who turn out in mid term elections and they fit right inside the re

frankly, that's no different than the kind of behavior that was encouraged in oklahoma city by timothy mcveigh and people around him and that is so dangerous every single day all across america. the reason people walk into schools and open fire is because of rhetoric like this and because of attitudes like this. the reason people walk into military bases and open fire is because of rhetoric like this and attitudes like this. really what they're doing is not that much different than what osama bin laden is doing in recruiting people and encouraging them to hate america. >> what should the president do? how should he handle it at this point? no other president's had to put up with this. >> no other president's had to put up with it. the president signed a law that permitted these people to go to a federal park and protest. provided the security to ealet them do it safety. these people are not about gun rights either. they're angry, they feel like they're losing their country. they say they want their constitution back. they were there today able to protest with their guns because they have their

. >> bill: they are not -- >> they are not yahoos and they are not timothy mcveigh.t's like a meeting of the rotary club. they are small businessmen and women. >> bill: they are regular folks. >> professionals in california. they are thoughtful americans and, bill clinton and barack obama and, you know, nbc news can try to marginalize them. but it is a mainstream movement. >> bill: that's why the president even is paying attention to them because he knows they are a threat. bill clinton and the tea party people have something in common. both of them were branded racist. if you remember, the south south carolina prime minister the far left went after bill clinton for the jesse jackson comment and called him a racist. clinton went through of the roof. that's what the far left is doing to the tea party calling them racist. clinton should be sympathetic to the tea party because they both got hammered by the far-left nuts in the same way. i would like to remind the former president of that i'm also am cognizant that there are some crazy people, chris, that have attached t

what happened with timothy mcveigh and the militia groups. >> at time, though, if they believed that this kind of language could lead to that sort of thing they should have said something. >> it is ridiculous. millions of people at tea party rallies. i would make the opposite point. this has been one of the most peaceful civic, civil organizations of mass citizens in the united states. can you find one or two citizens in the recent history of the united states. i think attacking them in this way is really wrong. it is not just foolish. it is an attempt to demonize the movement. >> chris: let's put up the new york times poll. it is quite interesting. put it up on the screen. they found 18%, 18% of americans now identify themselves as tea party supporters. other polls have it higher. and it also turns out that they are wealthier and better educated than most americans. i mean this is not a lu. in tic fringe. >> and that means they are more likely to vote. >> they are also older. >> they are older and the kind of people who turn out in mid term elections and they fit right inside the re

what happens with timothy mcveigh or -- >> i know, but at the time if they believed this sort of languageld lead to that sort of thing, they should have said something. >> millions of people have been to tea party rallies. how much violence has there been? it's amazing. i'll make the opposite point. this is one of the most peaceful, civic, civil organization of mass citizens in the united states. can you find one or two citizens in recent history in the united states? attacking them in this way is really wrong. not just foolish, but an attempt to demonize and discredit the movement. >> chris: let's put up the "new york times" poll. it's quite interesting. put it up on the screen. they found 18%, 18% of americans now identify themselves as tea party supporters. other polls have it higher. and it also turns out that they are wealthier and better educated than most americans. i mean this is not a lunatic fringe. >> no. you know what that means? that means they are more likely to vote. because when they are wealthier -- >> chris: they're also older. >> they're older and kind of people who tur

. >> reporter: the principal figure behind the attack was timothy mcveigh a u.s.veteran and former security guard. he said he was seeking revenge against the tyrannical federal government. he was convicted on federal murder charges and executed in 2001. >> the system works. america is good. >> reporter: mcveigh's accomplice terry nicholls nichols was convicted on federal and state bomb-related charges. he's serving multiple bomb sentences at a federal prison in colorado. the plot unraveled almost immediately when mcveigh was stopped a few hours after the bombing because his car had no license plate. the state trooper who made the arrest, charlie hanger, now is a county sheriff. he led a moment of silence today. >> we come here to remember those who were killed, those who survived, and those changed forever. may all who leave here know the impact of violence . may this memorial offer comfort , strength, peace, hope , answerenity. please join me in 168 seconds of silence. >> reporter: as they do every year, relatives read the roll call of the dead. >> my grandpa, .

that is what inspired timothy mcveigh to murder 168 men, women and children in oklahoma city. a long series of events. the larger themes are one of resistance, and vulnerability. but we have an obligation to learn from our history. it's not enough just to say it's a coincidence. it's about accepting responsibility for decisions made and learning from mistakes of our past and realizing the last time we saw a massive increase in militia movements, it did not end well. we need to be careful about the forces we're playing with sometimes. >> just for accuracy, they were saying it's because of patriots day they were protesting on. >> that's right. >> which you mentioned are the battles of lexington. >> that's exactly right. you do see, they wrapped themselves up in the american flag, as defenders of the american revolution, true defenders of the american revolution. the problem with with that is it posits others as lesser patriots. and i do this that in this time, everyone thinks they're fighting for freedom, but we do need to take a deep breath and take a look with a sense of calm,