, was masterminded by timothy mcveigh and substantially carried out by timothy mcveigh with veryrry nichols. >> if there were other people involved with the bombing, who were they? some believe there may have been a connection between mcveigh and elohim city, a so-called christian identity community in northeastern oklahoma, about 170 miles from oklahoma city near the arkansas border. >> it's essentially a religion that says white anglo-saxon americans are the true children of israel and jews are subhuman essentially, and black people are not even human at all. >> during the early 1990s a number of far right extremist reportedly spent time in elohim city. >> this was an interesting time. you had a number of anti-government groups that were taking shape, arming themselves, building compounds throughout the country, establishing their own laws, really setting themselves apart from mainstream cities and locations on purpose and believing, then, that not only people of other faiths or ethnicities or nationalities were the enemy, but that the united states government was the biggest e

timothy mcveigh was sentenced in 1997, and within four years was executed. >> thanks so much. >>> now on the latest on the deadly amtrak train crash in philadelphia. john terrett is at the scene with more. john? >> reporter: that's right. the revolution about the wind shield and the fbi being involved came from the ntsb press son for instance within the last three hours. another revelation was that they now interviewed the driver of train 188. the national transportation safety board has been front and center every day since tuesday's crash. friday was thank final public event before retreating behind the scenes to analyze the data. the headline their interview this afternoon with the train engineer. >> we found him to be extremely cooperative. >> reporter: the board's

sentenced to death for terrorism since timothy mcveigh. >> we sent a message a strong message, that we're not going to tolerate terrorism. i think whether you agree with the death penalty or don't i think the message sends they're not going to blow up our marathon our city. >> and to discuss the decision and the aftermath i'm joined by a political strategist, a senior fellow at the heartland institute, and a white house reporter with buzzfeed. let's talk about this decision in boston. this was interesting. to me, this really gets to the heart of what you think of the death penalty. when you talk about the death penalty so many times it's actually there might be evidence here this person didn't do it t. this was not a case where there was any doubt about guilt. everybody knew this guy was guilty. and the severity of the crime

terrorism in nearly two decades, since timothy mcveigh executed for bombing the oklahoma city federal building in 1995. >> we send a message, a strong message that we're not going to tolerate terrorism. and i think whether you agree with the death penalty or don't, i think the message sent, that they're not going to blow up our marathon, they're not going to blow up our city. >> reporter: the jury unanimously said he should face the death penalty for the victims of the bombs he placed, 8-year-old richard and lindsey lui. but not crystal campbell, or for the bomb planted by his brother, or sean collier. there was no clear evidence about which of the brothers pulled the trigger. the jury rejected the claim that tsarnaev was the junior partner, less responsible for the bombings.

both timothy mcveigh and tsarnaev showing absolutely no signs of remorse. that obviously can play on a jury's mind. both of them did not take the stand. both of them had a big beef against the government. mcveigh going back to ruby ridge and what happened at waco. tsarnaev making his feelings known, certainly at the very least by his writings on the side of that boat and as i think deborah, or jeffrey, pointed out, dropping that knapsack with the pressure cooker bomb, choosing to drop that behind martin richard, before that bomb was set off. so a lot of parallels between these two cases, and both juries finding for the death penalty. >> if you're just joining us we're discussing the fact that a jury has found dzhokhar tsarnaev not just guilty but have sentenced him to death in six of the counts because prompted by the terrorist attack on april 15th, two years ago. so two years and one month ago. i want to go to deb feyerick inside the courtroom, and deb, you've had more time to digest the directions to the jury and the counts on which they convicted him and

and the jurors agreed that timothy mcveigh deserved to be put to death. contrast that to a very similar trial for his co-conspirator terry nichols, who was found guilty of the conspiracy, working with timmy myothy mcveigh. in that case the jury -- there was a single holdout. everyone else wanted to put terry nichols to death, but one woman believed that since he wasn't there that day, ultimate ultimately, his life should be spared. so the jury was deadlocked in that particular case. ultimately that automatically meant that terry nichols would be sentenced to life in prison, and he remains in the super max prison in florence colorado to this day. >> susan candiotti, thank you so much. i'm being told the verdict is being read right now inside of the federal courthouse. again, no cameras are allowed inside the federal courthouse. we're waiting for it to get relayed to us. you want he to read a question. the question is tsarnaev was 18 years of age or old at the time of the offense charged under the particular capital count. this is one of the questions they

and right after they killed timothy mcveigh, they killed another guy the following week.and there was another prisoner that they killed in 2003, but there has not been anybody since then. since 2003. and those three executions over the last 50 years, which all happened in very quick succession those three federal death penalty cases, those executions were all done by lethal injection. and here's a very awkward question about the boston marathon bomber being sentenced to death today for that bombing. being sentenced to death in federal custody. nobody knows if the federal government actually can execute him. and i don't mean like you know legally, whether it's going to be okayed ultimately after the appeals process. i don't mean politically or morally, in terms of whether they've go the heart and the stomach to kill this guy. i mean, logistically, the question of whether the federal bureau of prisons who's now responsible for killing him, whether they can. whether they have the drugs that they would need to use for a lethal injection of dzhokar tsarnaev or any of the other

there hasn't been a capital punishment administered -- carried through since timothy mcveigh that was in the early 2000s. we're looking at a long wait and many years of dzhokhar tsarnaev potentially being in the headlines for this community. that's very much on people's minds, certainly we know from the richards, it's on the family's minds. >> we have more new information from inside the courtroom. the jury has unanimously found that at least one capital crime was committed and quote especially heinous cruel and depraved manner, on one capital offense, they did unanimously agree on the type of aggravating factor that could bring in the death penalty. if that sounds similar to what we've been reporting before it is true it is similar because they have to go through so many of these. but this is a unanimous finding tour'e that this could implicate the death penalty. i'm reading from the charging document that this crime was committed in a heinous and cruel manner an we unanimously find this is found beyond a reasonable doubt. >> and dzhokhar tsarnaev is found responsible for the death o

one was a young disenfranchised army vet named timothy mcveigh. bomb the federal building in oklahoma city. mcveigh said he did it in part because of the government action at waco. 16 days into the standoff david koresh agrees to let two of his followers meet with government negotiators face to face. >> he had selected steve schneider, his number one lieutenant, and wayne martin, their harvard-educated attorney, to come out and talk to our representative. the tension was extremely high. you could quite literally feel the crosshairs on you from the branch davidian compound. as i'm sure steve schneider and wayne martin could feel from our tactical teams that had everybody covered. >> the meeting is positive. the fbi negotiators arranged to meet again in two days and deliver written assurances requested by koresh. but schneider abruptly cancels the second meeting. >> he indicated that david didn't think it was necessary, so i said, wait a minute, you don't want to come out or david doesn't want you to come out? he says, well, david doesn't think it's

making a point timothy mcveigh is white so white people should be surveilled. no one is saying that. >> what are you saying? >> hold on let me make my point. you cannot hide behind religion as a shield if -- this is the point, julie -- forever you are going to use it to incite terror. if not you have nothing to worry about it. we shouldn't randomly put people in mosques to listen to sermons. don't say the absurd to try to deflect. >> am i confused or are people already surveying muslims in a community they consider to be a national threat. of course they are. >> do you have a problem with that? >> i don't have a problem with that. >> then i don't know what your position is. >> my position is very clear. if the fbi determines you are a threat whether catholic or muslim or jewish or hindu, whatever you are, then go ahead. but to say you have to go into mosques and assume every mosque -- >> that's not what dan's saying. >> if that's not what dan is say saying dan, i'm not sure what you're saying. we are already doing that going to mosques that are a threat to us a

timothy mcveigh abandoned his appeal which sped up the execution. the other two inmates executed since 1988 were both in texas a state that leads the nation by far in executions. the reality is this. dzhokhar tsarnaev wasn't tried in texas and he likely is not going to abandon his appeal. he might not even have the option of lethal injection. this is a recipe for a prolonged legal battle not for an execution. i'm sam brock. that's this edition of "reality check." back to you. >> thank you, sam. >>> scary incident at l.a.x. a man broke through a security checkpoint. the 21-year-old from danville pushed past guards and was stopped at the gate by an officer's taser. >> here is miguel almaguer with that. >> reporter: this is what shocked passengers witnessed. how it all came to an end. it began just a few moments earlier. airport officials following 21-year-old suspect christian heinz, winding through the corridors of l.a.x. after he allegedly breached security. >> he was shocked by a tsa officer. he was not cooperative. at that time the officers asked

you and i would never think that way. >> ted kaczynski, like timothy mcveigh, was a game changer withism. if we go to a federal office building or we get our mail, these are places where we expect safety. and, indeed, the postal service changed their methods for accepting and transporting packages and mail due to ted kaczynski. >> chief among the changes in postal security is the requirement that packages weighing more than 13 ounces be mailed in person at a post office, rather than being placed in a mailbox. but beyond the security measures, the biggest impact of kaczynski's campaign of terror has been on the victims. in the years since the bombings, at least four have died of natural causes. but others still bear the scars, both physical and emotional. >> you will never be the same. you accept it. you will never have closure. there is no such a word as closure. closure does not exist. life is different. now you get to choose what you're going to do with it. you can be bitter. you can be angry. or you can be happy. those are your choices. >> while some of ted kaczynski's victims have

or timothy mcveigh, oklahoma city.les in which this was really in the forefront, sort of nationally after a massive tragedy and how the juries in the end deliberate. what were the results in other huge trials? >> the major terrorism cases like the mcveigh case many of them have resulted in death penalty findings by juries. but i think this is a tougher case because on the one hand it's one of the most brutal pieces of carnage that the american public has ever seen. i'm sure you'll remember brooke that at one point in the trial when videos were shown of children and men and women being dismembered and killed by this bomb actual videotape of it not only the jurors were crying but hardened members of the press were crying in court. i mean it was that gripping and that awful to behold. so this would be a case that at least on the facts would appear to be the kind of case that the death penalty would be administered in. but of course on the other hand the american public like public in countries throughout western europe se

oklahoma bomber timothy mcveigh, ron raoul several murders as part of a drug ring and louis jones whoped an army private tracy joy mcbride. with us attorneys and fox news analysts kimberly guilfoyle and lis wiehl. clearly the federal government doesn't want to execute people. how many people on death row now. >> 612 people are on death row right now. >> 61 federal waiting to die. >> more than half of them have been sentenced more than a decade ago. so you are looking at people that have been sentenced decades plus. >> what holds up? >> appeals. >> they could get those appeals done quicker. >> not really. >> 61. >> you have got all these appeals that come -- automatic appeals that go to it a whole new set of lawyers. they will appeal the judge the sentencing. they will appeal jury verdicts. they will appeal incompetence of the counsel. so many appeals. >> you both were prosecutors. you prosecuted on a state level in california. >> um-huh. >> on death penalty cases. >> and the way the federal government has its structured though, they don't really want to executes anybody in my opinion.

timothy mcveigh was sentenced in 1997, and within four years was executed. >> thanks so much. >>> nowe latest on the deadly amtrak train crash in philadelphia. john terrett is at the scene with more. john? >> reporter: that's right. the revolution about the wind shield and the fbi being involved came from the ntsb press son for instance within the last three hours. another revelation was that they now interviewed the driver of train 188. the national transportation safety board has been front and center every day since tuesday's crash. friday was thank final public event before retreating behind the scenes to analyze the data. the headline their interview this afternoon with the train engineer. >> we found him to be extremely cooperative. >> reporter: the board's spokesman is robert sumwald. >> he recalls ringing the train bell as whenth through the station, but has no recollection of anything past that. >> reporter: the fbi has been called in to investigate mysterious cracking on the wind shield. in new york where train 188 was headed tuesday, the first funeral from the crash took pl

judge napolitano you pointed out that in certain cases like with timothy mcveigh in the oklahoma city bombing, five years in the grand scheme of things, that's not that long, right, judge? >> no, no, not long at all. it's faster than any state in the union except for texas. liz: don't move. we're going to take a quick break. lis, thank you, eric, thank you, judge, thank you, everybody stand by. david asman is standing by. we've got "after the bell." we are not moving from the camera position. we'll bring you all the news as it becomes available. stay tuned. stay tuned. we'll be right back.♪ e pursuit of healthier. it begins from the second we're born. after all, healthier doesn't happen all by itself. it needs to be earned... every day... from the smallest detail to the boldest leap. healthier means using wellness to keep away illness... knowing a prescription is way more than the pills... and believing that a single life can be made better by millions of others. ♪ healthier takes somebody who can power modern health care... by connecting every single part of it. realizing cold hard d

sentenced to death for an act of terrorism in nearly two decades, since timothy mcveigh executed for bombing the oklahoma city federal building in 1995. >> we send a message, a strong message that we're not going to tolerate terrorism. and i think whether you agree with the death penalty or don't, i think the message sent that they're not going to blow up our marathon they're not going to blow up our city. >> reporter: the jury unanimously said he should face the death penalties of the victims of the bombs he placed 8-year-old richard and lindsey lie. but not crystal, for the bomb planted by his brother, or sean collier. there was no clear evidence about which of the brothers pulled the trigger. the jury rejected the claim that czartsarnaev was responsible for the bombings. he later slumped in his chair as he has throughout the trial. victims and family members listened in solemn silence as the verdict was read. the parents of martin richard said nothing afterward. they publicly opposed the death penalty after he was found guilty last month. liz norton whose construction worker sons

. >> one of them timothy mcveigh. >>> a bay area victim of the boston bombings is recovering and looking forward to his 8th grade great lakes. aaron was 12 when it happened. here he is visiting the bombing site after it happened. surgeons removed metal from his legs. >>> the crew tearing down candlestick park has been using drinking water to keep the dust down despite the drought. thousands of gallons per hour. but apparently, they had no choice. the san francisco public utilities commission says state health regulations forbid the use of reclaimed water for aerial dust control. the puc says it's now working with the contractor to try to figure out some conservation solutions. >>> a new bus lane could be added to the bay bridge but it would be headed in the reverse direction. planners say it would look something like this. a movable barrier would separate an eastbound lane and turn it into a westbound lane. the reversal would only be for buses on the morning commute. >>> four to seven inches would be shaved off each lane to make room for the new contraflow lane and zipper barrier. the id

probably the most well known, timothy mcveigh, the 33-year- old convicted of the oklahoma city bombing. he was executed in terre haute, indiana on june 11, 2001. a few days later, juan raul garza, convicted drug trafficker and murderer was also executed. one-time war hero lewis jones, jr. was executed in 2003 after being convicted of kidnapping, rape and murder. >>> and you can go to ktvu.com for more on today's sentencing, including raw video of our interview with the hern family you'll find that link near the top of our home page. >>> today's sentencing in the boston marathon bombing case comes as tens of thousands of runners are preparing for the bay to breakers race here in san francisco. ktvu's david stevenson is in the city tonight with how authorities are working to protect runners and spectators from a potentially similar attack. >> reporter: frank, you can see security barricades dropped off ahead of sunday's race. police and race organizers say they remain especially mindful of race security two years after the boston marathon bombing. it's a race that draws serious runners f

timothy mcveigh, who was convicted of blowing up the murrah federal building in oklahoma city in 1995, was executed four years after sentencing, but only because he dropped his appeal. tsarnaev has given no indication he intends to do the same. the first appeal is automatic. his attorneys will likely ask for a new trial, and barring that, will begin a series of appeals all the way up to the supreme court. they can only appeal legal issues in the case, not the actual facts of the case. but, jim, legal scholars say there is one issue where they might have a chance, and that is the change of venue. despite the fact that there's hardly a person in this city that didn't suffer something from the boston bombings, he refused to move it out of town. >> axelrod: don dahler, thank you. a key witness to the marathon bombings never took the stand but his photos did help persuade the jury, and don will be back with that story a little later in the broadcast. now to nepal, where all eight bodies have been recovered from the site where a u.s. marine helicopter crashed tuesday while delivering aid. b

. >> looked at timothy mcveigh because that process was fast track. >> of the 80 federal defendants but to be executed it is the faster track. >> scott peterson has been on death row over a decade now. but is that part of the punishment the tortured wait? every that was raised by the defense. don't kill him it is worse to make him sit there for the rest of his life. >> prison is worth - - worse than death the other is still making a mortar. so maybe they may not "rolling stone" was back in the news this week now the dean is suing for defamation. of of a glamor cover boy. it could to not be any worse for "rolling stone." >> to have that sympathy that went along with that lead up to this gimmick looking at "rolling stone" did it shocking because it is sympathizing. he is a cold-blooded murderer. it was not a religious reason it was terrorism. >> "the boston globe" editorialized not just because they were against the death penalty but some victims' relatives said that lori: and fascinating stuff. questions remain over the dead the amtrak train derailment. we have new details about the even

that's where oklahoma city bomb bomber timothy mcveigh was put to death. >>> a mysterious marng fire in a wealthy neighborhood. a couple their 10-year-old son and a housekeeper all killed in a blaze that investigators now say was set. more on the quadruple murder and the mysterious text. >> reporter: gruesome new details emerge in the quadruple homicide in one of the most affluent neighborhoods in the country. just down the street from the vice president's official residence residence. >> four victims. >> reporter: authorities are calling this fire suspicion. >> we can say that there were at least on three of the four victims, there were injuries discovered. appear to be blunt force or sharp object injuries. >> reporter: according to investigators, no science of forced entry at the burning home where they discovered the bodies of savvas savopolus and his wife amy. police believe the couple's 10-year-old son and the housekeeper were among the victims. >> i have never seen anything like this. it's incredible. >> everyone in the neighborhood is shaken up. they're not sure what to think.

the quintessential individualist when timothy mcveigh blew up the federal building in a coma city he had that unfortunate jefferson quote about the tree of liberty needing to be refreshed with the blood of patriots and tyrants on his t-shirt. campaigning for the republican nomination in 2012, newt gingrich responds to a voter's question about legalizing weed [inaudible] so talk about updating the founders with a precise historical evidence to do that. and jefferson was cited by eleanor roosevelt frequently generally in favor of investment in public education and jefferson was literally ahead of its time when it came to that. democracy cannot function without an educated electorate and eleanor roosevelt liked that one. he has been cited in favor of of the gold standard and by jesse helms in opposition to the payment of union dues, by ronald reagan putting the brakes on spending. i wish it were possible to obtain a single amendment to the constitution, taken from the government the power of borrowing thomas jefferson 1798, the republicans love that over and over we hear it. jefferson d

and timothy mcveigh is mentioned did stop the appellate process.995. he was sentenced and convicted in 1997. and he died four years after that. so that was relatively brief. prior to him, it was actually in federal prison and it happened in eight years. so remember, what's in front of the supreme court right now deals with the mix of chemicals for which you're sentenced to die. dying is by lethal injection, and there's a problem, based upon the drugs, based upon the availability of them. and the issue is whether it constitutes cruel and unusual punishment. i certainly expect that decision will be resolved by the supreme court well before his date of execution. so it may not be an issue in terms of the availability of drugs. the nature of whether it's cruel and unusual and how a person is put to death. depending upon what he does in terms of stopping appeals. not stopping appeals. moving forward, the arguments he makes, it could be wrong or relatively short. >> alrighty. and lastly, a report says that the appeals process, gosh, they got $10 million?

>> timothy mcveigh was convicted in 1994 and executed in 2001. that was fast. we've had people on death row in this country for many year and so we're looking at many many years. and most appeals fail. and he does have one issue that might succeed and that is the failure to move the trial from boston and get a change of venue. and you had a case that involved the city the marathon shutting down the city there was a strong argument to move it away and the judge didn't and that may result in a change to the death penalty here. and jeff toobin, appreciate you being with us. there is a lot to cover about this sentence. for years we've been following the progress of a survivor a dancer who vowed to dance again. she testified in the penalty phase of the bomber's trial and learned the verdict today along with the rest of us watching from home and i'm pleased that adrianne watches us now. and i was thinking about you and the others that heard the verdict and when you first heard it what did you think? >> gosh anderson i thought i would be happy, i thought i would be in

timothy mcveigh did it. he filed an affidavit with the court, said i'm waiving my the u.s. supreme court and further appeals. he said he would go into an evaluation do determine his competency to do so. and he could do the same exact thing. >> you others say the death penalty was not appropriate. martin richard the eight-year-old boy who so tragically was killed that day his apparent had a heartfelt plea to the public a couple months ago saying don't give him the death penalty. it's not appropriate. some say he was 19 years old at the time. the defense attorney say he was naive and impressionable and all that. and the death penalty would increase the pain through this whole system. that is the debate. >> sure. i think everybody respects those opinions. certainly the department of justice took that into consideration but ultimately there are a lot of other people who thought that the death penalty was appropriate. that was the decision the department of justice had to make. they did. they moved forward with that and 12 jurors agreed with that position. >> does did make him a

the day the youngest person on our federal death row and this is the first first sentence since timothy mcveighnd that goes back to 19 97. he was executed in 2001. that's a long time. >> yes yes, a couple of factors, and i'll ask you the same question again. the father of one of the victims said don't give him the death threat because i don't want an endless appeals process. he was being tried in a politically liberal state that does not allow the death penalty for state cases. >> yes. >> some jurors believe-- believe--some--under the guidance of the influence of his older brother and still this jury sentenced him to death. >> so you bring a lot of things up. yes, we are in a liberal state but we are in a federal jurisdiction that imposes death penalty in terrorism cases. and they're death qualified meaning that everyone who sits on this jury has the judge who say we can and we're willing to impose the death penalty. that stacks the deck. number two they don't know a thing about whether or not the victims are in favor of the death penalty. there has been a lot of discussion about whether or not

since timothy mcveigh was executed for bombing the oklahoma city building in 1995. >> we sent a message a strong message that we're not going to tolerate terrorism. and i think whether you agree with the death penalty or don't i think the message sends that they are not going to blow up our marathons or blow up our city. >> reporter: the jury unanimously said he should face the death penalty for the victims of the bomb he placed, 8-year-old martin richard and lindsey liu, but not for the death of crystal campbell planted by the brother of his, tamerlan. the jury rejected the defense claim that tsarnaev was the junior partner less responsible for the bombings. tsarnaev never took the stand in his own defense and showed no emotion when the verdict was read later he slumped in his chair as he has throughout the trial. victims and family members listened in solemn silence as the verdict was read. among them the parents of martin richard who said nothing afterward. they publicly opposed the death penalty after tsarnaev was found guilty last month. this woman who lost both of her legs in the

that's where oklahoma city bomber timothy mcveigh was executed. paula? >> that appeals process could drag on for year ifs not decades. >>> a mysterious mansion fire in a ritzy washington, d.c., neighborhood. a wealthy couple their 10-year-old son and a housecooper all killed in a blaze that investigators say now was set. more on the quadruple murder and the mysterious text. >> reporter: gruesome new details emerge in the quadruple homicide in one of the most affluent neighborhoods in the country. just down the street from the vice president's official residence. >> four victims. it's going to be a pro longed secondary search. >> reporter: authorities are calling the fire at this multimillion dollar washington wag, mansion, suspicious. >> we can say that there were at least on three of the four victims, there were injuries discovered. appear to be blunt force or sharp object injuries. >> reporter: according to investigators, there were no signs of forced entry at the burning home where they discovered the murdered bodies of american iron works ceo savvas

this is where timothy mcveigh, for instance, was executed in 2001. actually where all three of the federal death penalty defendants executed since 1977 were all put to death. the next step though in this process, greta is, a formal sentencing hearing. that's when a judge will formally hand down a sentence. we will possibly hear from more victims on that date. greta? >> molly always nice to see you, thank you. >> okay, now, this one is so strange. it's a gruesome murder. but it happened just blocks from the national can a toledo democratically and just cathedral. police tonight confirming it's homicide. that's next. plus, sad news for all us blues lovers tonight. blues legend b.b. king has died. we will take you back to the years when the king of blues went "on the record." ♪ let the good times roll why are all these people so asleep yet i'm so awake? did you know your brain has two systems? one helps keep you awake- the other helps you sleep. science suggests when you have insomnia, the wake system in your brain may be too strong and your neurotransm

timothy mcveigh in 2001 was the last federal execution. since then 44 individuals have been sentenced to the death penalty. none have been executed. it is very difficult, craig, to actually execute someone in the federal system. there are a lot of openings for appeals here. if you look at the legal grounds for this verdict there are things that can be attacked here. the lawyers may go for the fact that the venue remained, despite their strenuous objections, in boston. that emotions ran so high that it may have been hard to impatti labelle an im-- impanel an impartial jury. it will likely be years before we see a true resolution. meanwhile, this community that showed so much strength through such difficult times, still really reeling is the sense that i get here. as helicopters swarm overhead, as gun ships go by right by me. a tumultuous scene still. >> and craig you know, legally, the jurors don't take that into account. >> don't take what part into account? >> that this could take time and could be difficult to execute. they are asked to

you didn't go out there and do something like timothy mcveigh were anything like that. you got a point across in needed without hurting anybody. and you represent the aviation thing quite well. it is truly an honor to get to talk with you. you have a good day. peter, you have a good weekend, too. host: our last call on the democrat line. caller: by the other caller, i want to take my hat off to you. you displayed great courage in what you did. if there is justice to be just, at times it has to be subjective. i only wish i was under jury. i don't care what poppycock the prosecutor through you, i would find you not guilty and it is great that you are baking this point up. i think the supreme court made a hernandez decision with citizens united and you have my full support. if there is anything i can do for you, please contact me. have a good day. guest: i need to recognize the courage of the people who have been in the trenches working on this issue for the last two years. the problem is, the solutions have not been properly recognize, they have not been covered in the me

it only took 11 hours to decide what to do about timothy mcveigh.is wearing its decision from a 24-page questionnaire that are aggravating and mitigating. deborah feyerick is covering this in boston for us. good morning. >> reporter: good morning, carol. and that's right. the jury is now in its 11th hour of deliberating. they began on wednesday just after closings and the judge even though there was less than an hour in the day, the judge basically put them in that room and said start talking. and dzhokhar tsarnaev in court has really seemed a lot lighter. his mood. his demeanor. we sat through this trial and the guilt trial since march and he was very serious. we don't know whether he was instructed to be that way but yesterday after the jury began deliberating he seemed much more relaxed. he was writing on a pad. some people thought he was sketching. then another time toward the end of the day during private conversation with his lawyer there was actually a belly laugh and all of the journalists in the courtroom kind of looked at each other saying

the attack on oklahoma city federal building was carried out by timothy mcveigh and terry nichols in retaliation for perceived federal government mishandling of the 1993 siege of ruby ridge. it was time to coincide with the second anniversary of the deadly fire that ended the season in waco, texas. his concludes my testimony. i will be pleased to answer any questions. thank you. >> thank you mr. little. >> good morning everyone. good morning senator. dr. owen is right. i want to focus on two things. first, 901 hr 1769, the exposure research act of 2015. we want to thank the senators for introducing this important legislation. and the senators and representatives who have and will cosponsor. we are disappointed that hr 1769 was withdrawn for tomorrow's markup section. we understand there is concerned the bill has not been scored yet. it is our estimate that the course might be as high as 20-25 million based on appropriations for the gulf war resource center. we would be happy to discuss this with staff or members. and we urge the committee leadership to expedite this review. what is d

probably the most well known was timothy mcveigh, the 33- year-old oklahoma city bomber executed in 2001. juan raul garza, convicted drug trafficker and murderer was executed. one-time war hero lewis jones, jr. was executed on march 18, 2003, after being convicted of kidnapping, murder and rape. >>> the federal death row is at the united states penitentiary in terre haute, indiana. currently there are 60 people on death row there. >>> new developments in an arrest after a 17-year-old student was shot and killed near jesse bethel high school in vallejo. a 19-year-old is behind bars for that killing. tonight, the victim's mother says she didn't think her son was safe going to school there and she had wanted him to leave. ktvu's christina rendon is live in vallejo, where the grieving family is left with few answers tonight. >> reporter: yeah, they really are, gasia. they admit their son should have been in school at the time he was shot, but mom is very upset. she said she tried to take her son out of jesse bethel high school several times, but wasn't allowed to. now she says he was killed

communications unit which houses inmates for terrorism related offenses oklahoma city bomb third bomber timothy mcveighd at the facility back in 2001 no word yet on when so absurd i have will be executed >> catherine heenan: this is breaking new data san jose san jose police are looking for a suspect wanted on felony warrant we have some photos from the same police are asking people to stay away from the area of buying street near grant as the search continues tonight and it affects a school where a shelter and is a place has been placed order ought was issued as a precaution tonight please and the children were not in any danger but officers have been on the same directing parents of those students to an alternate spot to pick up their children the person they're looking for is wanted as part of a previous gang investigation nor other details are being released >> pam moore: the shooting took place in a drainage canal outside of jesse baffled by scope dan kerman is there live with more details >> dan kerman: this of the drainage canal in down there is a memorial where the body was found and were expec

>> well you know it's interesting that you say that you know in the case of timothy mcveigh he actuallyo execute him within four years, because he disband the appeals. i heard a couple of experts on our channel say something fascinating, which is these weren't suicide bombers. they actually fled from the police and fought back. so yes, while he was dying in that boat he did say some things about being ready to die however, he surrendered. so while he may have said certain things about wanting to die, i think his actions make it clear maybe he didn't want to die. i wouldn't be surprised if the jury ever speaks if they say that they talked about that fact. >> so then help us understand where he's held you know what the conditions are like on death row on the federal level for him. >> well so what's going to happen is this right now he's in massachusetts in a federal prison. he'll be held there until august or september, there's a bunch of legal things that need to happen. he's been sentenced to death on 6 of the 17 death penalty counts but there were 13 other charges that don't carry the

if you take a look at this, timothy mcveigh here and jones, convicted of raping a female soldier andill tsarnaev meet that same fate. here according to a cnn orc poll, it says here that a majority of americans 53% of you look at this say tsarnaev should face the death penalty. 45 with life in prison there. that is a national poll. let's take a closer look at the city of boston where this is taking place. a wmur survey found only 20% of registered voters support the death penalty for tsarnaev but 61% favor life in prison for him. massachusetts has a reputation of being against the death penalty. the state law doesn't allow for capital punishment but it is an option because he is being tried in a federal court. also something to keep in mind here tsarnaev's defense attorney judy clark so much at stake, she really had a successful run here stating several high profile clients from the death sentence including unabomber ted kaczynski and mao sawvy and susan smith who drowned her two young sons strapped in the seat. ultimately up to these jurors now. they've come to a decision. weep in mi

now, keep in mind that the timothy mcveigh was not a muslim at all. so we have other kinds of terrorists activities in the united states beyond anybody connected with isis and remember there could be a problem on the base already. not somebody trying to sneak on the base but maybe a military personnel, soldier, airman already on the base who is recruited and becomes a sympathizer. those individuals, like major hasan as fort hood could be a huge problem. right? >> certainly has been. and could be in the future but that's one of the things that the military has taken, i think a much higher degree of attention to, paying attention to those signs. that someone may have some psychological problem, or may be radicalized in one way or another and as i say, it doesn't have to be radical gee haudjihadism and part of the american fabric. we all need to be aware and it's our responsibility as individuals to reach out when we see something that isn't the way it should be. reach out to the appropriate authorities, and report it, and i know that that is taking plac

you didn't go out there and do something like timothy mcveigh or anything like that. got a point across and you did it without hurting anybody. and you represent the aviation thing quite well. i called up to find out what it would cost to get one of those things. it is truly an honor to talk to you. you have a good day. peter, i mean, handsome, you have a good weekend, too. host: last call for doug hughes comes from don in sumter, south carolina. caller: good morning, peter. good morning, mr. hughes. like the other caller, i am going to take my hat off to you, sir. he displayed great courage -- you displayed great courage in what you did. if there is justice to be just it at times has to be subjective. i only wish i was on your jury. i don't care what poppycock the prosecutors throughout you i , would find you not guilty. i think the supreme court made a horrendous decision with citizens united, and you have my full support. if there is anything i can do for you, please contact me. and have a good day. host: doug hughes? guest: well, i think -- if i haven't, i need to