tangential connection to the oklahoma city bombing exactly two years to the day later because timothy mcveighong those looky loos who had come to see what was going on. >> there was quite a bit of people drawn to michael during the siege. some of them were antigovernment and had very antigovernment sentiments and beliefs apparently timothy mcveigh is one of those attracted to the incident for those reasons and was cited later -- waco was cited as being one of his rationales for the oklahoma city bombing. there was a resurgence in the right wing antigovernment movements after this. >> what do you want people to take away after they see this? is. >> to see that it's not as simple as you thought it was. for a lot of generations, they don't know what happened out there. they've heard the name but really don't know what the confrontation was about, how it got started. >> it's going to be an extraordinary thing to watch. six-part series. the first has already aired, on wednesday nights on the paramount network. you compound that with your book "stalling for time," thank you so much for your time. >

. >> timothy mcveigh was there.y the incident at waco that he became an anarchist. >> federal building in oklahoma city was rocked this morning by what some are speculating was a car bomb. >> the attack may have been th waco, texas. >> reporter: there are branch davidians still worshipping in america. today at the site of the former compound, a memorial to dead. >> the waco, i have been to several times. just brings back thesenseless, useless feeling that this didn't have to happen. >> ultimately, i would say we never had control over how it was going to end. that was david. he made that decision. coming un ne "molly's game" and why thistory so is relevant to today's "me too" movement. any object. any surface. if you've got a life you gotta swiffer yeeeeaaaahhh! uh oh...a painful sore throat? not take cépacol instamax. look! unlike regular cough drops it contains 2 max strength pain relievers and cools in seconds. bye bye sore throat. take cépacol instamax. ( ♪ ) with 33 individual vertebrae and 640 muscles in the h

. >> on the morning of april 19, 1995, an anti-government gulf war vet named timothy mcveigh drove aoklahoma city federal building. it contained nearly 5,000 pounds of explosives. [ indistinct shouting ] >> we've got a hot spot! get them back! >> the blast tore the structure in half. 20 children in the building's daycare center were among the 168 people killed. >> the bombing in oklahoma city was an attack on innocent children and defenseless citizens. it was an act of cowardice and it was evil. >> as investigators sifted through the wreckage, 1,300 miles away, in washington, lawmakers were busy working on a very different inquiry. although special counsel robert fiske had already issued his report on the vince foster suicide and ken starr had taken over the whitewater probe, republicans in congress were dermined to do their own investigations and hold public hearings on all of it. >> the democrats were desperate to obstruct. the white house was desperate to obstruct. >> among those who testified was jean lewis, the senior investigator for resolution trust corporation, whose criminal

timothy mcveigh is a fan of "behold a pale horse." but also, it's really popular in the hip-hop fan community and the idea that jay-z is an illuminati mastermind. these kind of very disparate communities unite behind holding william cooper's "behold a pale horse" in high regard. and part of that is how all encompassing cooper's narrative is. and it has to be all encompassing because he has a very direct philosophy. he writes, i do not believe in fate. i do not believe in accidents. i cannot and will not accept the theory that long sequences of unrelated accidents determine world events. remind us of anything? >> bingo. cooper is an excellent example of that idea of mechanistic causality, of that idea that evelyn brought up before, that there has to be a reason. for cooper, everything happens for a reason. there is no contingency. there is no accident. which means that when the question of extraterrestrial life comes along, it also is going to have to be folded into his grand conspiracist narrative, and cooper's is the builder brg grou