on a dresser was a framed photograph of oklahoma city bomber timothy mcveigh.echoes) >> holy cow! about a third of the building has been blown away! >> thompson: on april 191995,lf guar veteran timothy mcveigh detonated a truck bomb in front of the oklahoma city federal building. scores were killed. for you, what are the lessons w thshould know today about oklahoma city?hi >> i it's not only oklahoma city, it's lessons that we've been learning about lone wolf terrorism. it doesn't take a large organization to cause mass casualty. >> thompson: kerry myers was an fbi bomb tech who investigated the oklahoma city bombing. i show myers the crime scene photos from the atomwaffen apartment. >> do we have close-ups of that? >> thompson: i don't know, let me look. they document a wide range of explosives, including some of the same ingredients used by mcveigh in his oklahoma city attack. >> they were making bombs.a this is mb maker's workshop. there's the cooler. this is the hmtd. this is actually what caused them the most concern, and rightfly so. hmtd is not very comm

and in nbc's covering the trial of timothy mcveigh. and in one of the lead prosecutor's. and then that stayed with me in a pleasant way in the aftermath. and really this is an example of a wonderful career journalism. so i jump right to the idea where you think the state of journalism is today. so you write in your book that the dividing line is the one between journalism and this is crucial right now. >> it seems that ever before in human history has more information been available to people and that's a great thing but it's also true for the first time never in the history has more bad information been available to more people. it is cynically cast by hostile governments to change american opinion. i ask myself the question what is the fastest way to destroy a democracy corrects war? terrorism corrects another great depression is to poison the information that is exactly what we are seeing right now. and this is exactly where people like you and i come in and what journalism was invented for and that what we are seeing online these days with the amplification of opinion

you were at nbc covering the trial of timothy mcveigh back in denver. >> guest: i did. and went on to mary after the triamarry after thetrial was ovd prosecutors in oklahoma city in that horrible event. some stayed with me but also in a pleasant way in the aftermath of all of it. >> host: let me start with journalism. this book is an example of a wonderful career in journalism and journalism done the right way with purpose and meaning. i jump right to the idea where you think the state of journalism is today and you write in your book that you think the dividing line that matters now is the one between journalism and john. that is what is crucial right now. it's also true that for the first time never in our history has more bad information been available to more people. so much of what we see on the internet is cast by foreign hostile governments and cynical politicians to spend and change american opinion. i ask myself the question what's the fastest way to destroy democracy. is it war, terrorism, is it another great depression, i don't think so. the fastest way to de

out, your coverage of the oklahoma city, you cover the event but you also covered the trial of timothy mcveighas i did. i was covering the white house during 9/11 and a force among other things you did an amazing hour documentary or maybe it was two on the one-year anniversary of 9/11. and i've been thinking a lot as we, next year will be the 25th anniversary of the oklahoma city bombing and so many people, so many americans don't think about it in its importance because it was displaced by9/11 but in meaningful ways , both those events taken together change america, change our politics, change journalism in some ways and as you been reflective about the response to those events, particularly 9/11, i wonder what you think those changes were and have been in this country? >> david, so much time has passed as you just mentioned it occurred to me recently that it's very likely that we have young troops hiding in afghanistan today who were not born on 911. the reason that we're in afghanistan . you certainly have a lot of people in the military today, a lot of young people in every walk of life wh