certain things. >> joining us now is timothy snyder, professor of history at yale university.ing that was said on this same day that secretary rubio said that just to show us how donald trump has stacked the deck now against ukraine, who he apparently blames for the war. let's listen to what donald trump said today about about ukraine. >> i think i have the power to end this war, and i think it's going very well. but today i heard, oh, well, we weren't invited. well, you've been there for three years. you should have ended it three years. you should have never started it. you could have made a deal. >> you should have never started it. he's saying that to ukraine. >> yeah. >> it's. >> it's ghastly. >> ukraine. ukraine was invaded by russia in violation of every fundamental principle of international law. and the ukrainians have resisted far better and far longer than anyone would have expected, or had a right to expect of them. and by resisting, they've allowed the rest of us throughout the west, throughout the world to have a chance to engage in more or less normal politics.

i think that is very useful to think of it in the terms that timothy snyder proposed, -- obedience, and we are seeing a lot of that. where snyder's analysis doesn't go far enough, is exploring all of the very good reasons to obey in advance. i sort of have been mentally creating a -- of all the reasons that i have heard over the years, working in russia for obeying in advance. there is the responsibility to others reason. because if you don't obey in advance then you are putting other people at risk, other employees at your magazine, other employees at your publishing house. i have very specific memories of when i was an editor and the publisher would come to me and say do you want to get 325 people fired, to leave their families without livelihoods? there is the higher purpose argument, where it is transactional. you help children with cancer in exchange for supporting putin, a real-life example. there is the sort of rationale profit argument which doubles as a responsible to for others argument -- responsibility for others argument. the business may be affected if they don't censor. w

often refer to as self-censorship and i think it's very useful to think of it in the terms that timothy snyderproposes, obedience and we are seeing a lot of that. and i think where snyder's analysis doesn't go far enough is exploring all the very, very good reasons and i've sort of mentally creating toxonmy of all the reasons working in russian for being in advance, so the responsibility to others reason because if you don't -- if you don't -- other employees at your magazine, other employees at your publishing house and i have very specific memories of when i was an editor, when the publisher would come to me and say, you want to get 325 people fired, you want to leave the families without livelihoods. there's the hire purpose argument where -- transactional. you get -- you help children with cancer in exchange for -- for supporting putin real life example. there's the sort of the rational prophet argument which also doubles as a responsibility to other's argument and a person's other businesses may be affected if they don't censor. we've seen that already in this country, right, we saw the p

and i think is very useful to think of it in the terms that timothy snyder, which is the terms of anticipatory obedience, and we're seeing a lot of that. and i think where where snyder's analysis doesn't go far enough is an exploring all the very, very good reasons to in advance. and i've sort been mentally creating a taxonomy of all the reasons that i have heard that. i heard over the years working in russia for being an advance. so there is the the so the responsibility to others reason because if you don't if, you don't obey in advance, then you're putting other people risk other employees at your magazine and other employees at your publishing house. and i have very specific memories of when i was an editor, when the publisher would come to me and say, you know, do you want to get 325 people fired? you want to leave their families without livelihoods? there's the higher purpose argument where you which is transactional rate get you help the children with cancer in exchange for for supporting putin real life example there's the sort of the the the rational profit argument which also doubles

and same with timothy snyder and historian and david sacks. and guess what?ter] that as opposed to the affirmation, aforementioned you know what poet. liz: thank you so much. charlie gasparino. >> back to you, liz. a. [laughter] liz: okay. closing bell just under 5 minutes away. the s&p tracking for its second straight records close. that would be the third record of 2025. right now up 12 points. let's see if it can hold in the next four minutes. s&p 500 companies overall having a sweet earnings season. 81% of companies having reported, guess what a? if 75% of them have beat earnings per share estimates. 63% have blown past revenue if estimates. and fourth quarter profits are up 14.7% compared to last year. the s&p though, for its part, up about a 4% or so is year to date. that's not bad, quarter to date, but there are european markets doing way better. so that makes this, perhaps, in the united states more of a stock picker's market, individual names. and our countdown closer is hunting for winners like a shark circling prey. thomas martin vp for globall inv

as timothy snyder talks about in his book on tyranny, we can't be paralyzed with fear. we have to step up and fight this stuff. this is fascism. we're seeing it right in our streets, right here. the use of the military will be next in the streets of america to round up people who are brown. and in new jersey, they detained a guy who was a us military veteran, a us citizen, and they mocked him because he said, i'm an american, and they mocked him for it. and congresswoman bonnie watson coleman and others denounced it. so this is a spectacle. it is called a fascist spectacle. people can google that term. it is real. >> the problem with this, though, is that we're talking about it here, but there are probably large swaths of the country who are just watching right wing media and who follow doctor phil, and they're probably buying the fact that, like, finally, donald trump is in power. two weeks in, he is fixing the immigration system and they are just eating it all up. >> i think that it's not going to be until you start to see people don't know where teachers are and nann

and so i don't mind timothy snyder's right.ean, if you're going to say that ukraine was was the aggressor, then you got to talk about 38, right? and you can't be ashamed or afraid to talk about. >> i'm glad you said that. glad you said that. finally, jim, what do you make of ackman yesterday and howard hughes this whole bit. well 10 million at 90. >> you know. yeah i mean like i think that ackman look this howard hughes situation he's been on many many times saying he liked it i find that bill ackman is in the ackman world i mean he's got this huge. there's nothing i say if i don't say if i say it's great then i've done i'm okay. if i say it's weird then i'm not okay. i'm not saying that he controls the media. i'm just saying what's his company that he wants to control very badly. he wants to make it. he wants to make it his berkshire hathaway. and i wish him luck. he should make it his his birth. why shouldn't we all have berkshire hathaway? hey, listen, if you're an oligarch, you should have everything you want. what's the pr

timothy snyder, a great. >> professor at yale, just not sure that the administration is aware of that. >> 38 no. should be no. >> yeah. they might want to read the transcript. all right. still to come. >> we're going to. >> hit southwest airlines. it's the latest company to announce some fairly large layoffs. let's give you a look at futures. of course we get started trading here about 12 minutes from now. we are looking for a nicely let's call it nicely higher let's call it nicely higher open. we're back af it all started with a small business idea. it's a pillow with a speaker in it! that's right craig. pulling in the perfect team to get the job done. i'm just here for the internets. at&t, it's super-fast! you locked us out?! and when thrown a curveball... arrggghh! ahhhh! [crashing sounds] we had everything we needed. is the internet out? don't worry, we have at&t internet back-up. the next level network for small business. ♪♪ i sold a pillow! >> and secure jeep grand. >> cherokee melt. >> limitations with. >> our most. >> capable jeep wrangler. >> ever, or. >> battle the elements.

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