in february 1980, he pays a high school kid to help him kidnap 5-year-old timothy white. >> steven watchedmy suffer from this separation from his family for two weeks and decided, finally, that he had to do sk about it. >> reporter: when parnell goes to work, steven hitchhikes with timothy to the town of ukiah, going directly to the police station. >> but when he arrives at that police station, he says something that will be embedded in the public consciousness forever. >> i know my first name is steven. >> that's the title of the book. it became a television movie, and it made steven famous. >> this is steven today. he is holding 5-year-old timothy white. >> steven was a national hero. he returns to merced triumphant. >> good morning, steven and mr. and mrs. stainer, and steven, how's it feel to be home? >> feels great. >> did you remember your parents well? >> um, they didn't change that much. i recognized them when i got out of the car? >> what about your brothers and sisters? >> they changed a lot. i never recognized either one of them. >> reporter: parnell never sands trial on the kid

he is holding 5-year-old timothy white. >> who could make this up?azine cover, every movie executive. there wasn't anyone not interested. >> there he is. there he is. >> steven was a national hero. he returns to merced triumphant. >> steven's return has been a joyous event. >> within days, he's on "good morning america." >> good morning, steven, and mr. and mrs. stayner. steven, how's it feel to be home? >> feels great. >> did you remember your parents well? >> they didn't change that much. i recognized them when i got out of the car. >> what about your brothers and sisters? >> they changed a lot. i never recognized either one of them. >> mr. and mrs. stayner, how did this affect your other four children? >> when steve disappeared, the older two were very upset and i think kind of became very quiet children from the experience. >> there was a press conference outside the stayner house on bette street. and everyone was smiling. there was a lot of jubilation. this is really some sort of a miracle that steven's come home. >> the greatest thing that ever

timothy mcveigh. he has been thought of as a lone wolf. but in reality, he was part of a movement. >> what do we want? white power. >> he had been a member of the ku klux klan. he had contacts with other white supremacists across the country. and the inspiration for his called the bible of american - white supremacists. it gave birth to a little known armed white rebellion. that continues to this day. >> this is cold blooded murder. >> to understand oklahoma city and today's violence in charleston and pittsburgh -- shots fired, shot fired. >> we need to understand mcveigh's favorite book. it's called "the turner diaries." >> nationalism really is the wave of the future. >> it was written in the 1970s by william pierce. >> i did admire many things hitler wrote. >> he was a physics professor who became a leading figure in the white supremacist mocvement >> i for one under god will die before i will yield one inch. >> for years, the all powerful ku klux klan had led the charge. >> threats. beatings. rapings and, of course, murder. ♪ we shall overcome >> then came the civil rights movement. a crushing blow to t

timothy mcveigh. he has been thought of as a lone wolf. but in reality, he was part of a movement. >> what do we want? >> white power!when do we want it? >> he had been a member of the ku klux klan. he had contacts with other white supremacists across the country. and the inspiration for his attack was a book that's been called the bible of american white supremacists. it gave birth to a little known armed white rebellion. that continues to this day. >> this is cold blooded murder. any way you put it. >> to understand oklahoma city and today's violence in charleston and pittsburgh -- >> contact, shots fired, shots fired! >> we need to understand mcveigh's favorite book. it's called "the turner diaries." >> nationalism really is the wave of the future. >> it was written in the 1970s by william pierce. >> i did admire many things hitler wrote. >> he was a one-time physics professor who became a leading figure in the white supremacist movement. >> villainous, traitorous! >> in the 1960s, pierce saw his cause under threat. >> for years, the all powerful ku klux klan had led the charge. >> threats. beatings. rapings and,

seek the death penalty in some federal cases, including --r they white supremacist .or the white supremacist timothy mcveigh, the oklahoma city bomber in 2001. lewis jones junior was executed in 2003 for the rape and murder of a female soldier. fred is in alabama supporting the death penalty. good morning. caller: good morning. i tell you i am pretty ambivalent about this, but i think it should be carried on. the death penalty should. they should be very careful and make sure they review the cases. make sure the people are guilty because some people just deserve to die. that is how i feel. ohio next. this is fran. go ahead. caller: no matter how many confessions, no matter what the evidence, it is always possible for an innocent person to be executed. if the system cannot prevent the crime, the system cannot be perfect for deciding who committed the crime. i am opposed to the death penalty. host: you're feeling is that those people, the worst punishment we could give them is life without any possibility of parole? caller: life imprisonment is enough for the guilty. capital punishment is too much for

timothy goeglin's vice president of external and government relations focused on the family. former press secretary to us senator, special assistant to george w. bush and deputy director of the white house office of public liaison but first and foremost, he is a man of faith. ladies and gentlemen, please join me in during a horde -- warm heritage open to timothy goeglin author of the forthcoming best-selling book "american restoration: how faith, family, and personal sacrifice can heal our nation". [applause] >> with an introduction like that i'm tempted to say thank you and good night but i won't. i have hanging on my office wall what i consider one of the greatest paragraphs of the 20th century. the conservative is concerned first of all for the regeneration of spirit and character, with the perennial problem of the inner order of the soul, the restoration of the ethical understanding and the religious sanction upon which any life worth living is founded and he concludes beautifully this is conservatism at its highest. in my role that focuses on the family i travel about the third of the time. a lot of travel and over the course of the last ten years i continue to hear the same

timothy mcvay. he's thought of a lone wolf. in reality he was part of a movement. >> what do we want? >> white power. >> he had been a member of the ku klux clan. he had contacts with other white supremacists across the country and the inspiration for his attack was a book. a book that's called "the bible of american white supremacists." it gave birth to an armed white rebellion. that continues to this day. >> is it cold-blooded murder any way you claim it. >> to understand oklahoma city and today's violence in charleston and pittsburgh. >> shots fired. >> we need to understand mcvay's favorite book. it is called "the turner diaries." >> it was written in the 1970s by william pearce. >> i did admire many things that hitler wrote. he was a one time physics professor who became a leading figure in the white supremacist movement. in the 1960s, pearce saw his cause in disarray. >> god would die even if i want any. >> for years the all powerful ku klux clan had led the charge. >> threats. beatings. raping and of course murders. then came the civil rights movement. a crushing blow to the clan. >> fr

white house. well, today maybe at a golf course while you are paying the bill. and donald trump's new address is probably the only reason he's not facing indictment. joining me now is timothy o'brien of bloomberg opinion, maya wily, and jill wine-banks. jill, i'm going to start with you because if somebody told someone else to rob a bank and they said go and get me $1,000 from the bank and the person robbed the bank and that person was arrested and put in jail typically the person who ordered the crime or asked them to do it, would they not be indicted? so is trump only literally free of being indicted with michael cohen because his president? >> yes is the simple answer. a conspiracy makes everybody that's part of the conspiracy responsible for whatever crime is committed. if you rob a bank with someone who has a gun and that person kills someone you're responsible for the murder just as much as a robbery. and the only reason a person wouldn't be indicted in those circumstances is the office of legal counsel, if the department of justice said you cannot indict. and this is so much like watergate because it's not fair when the main actors in an event are free like the pres

timothy in new york this morning. 7:30 a.m. on the east coast. we are having this conversation about your personal financial picture. the morning after a deal came together between democrats in congress and the white house and republicans in congress as well. raising the federal debt ceiling to allow for billions of dollars in additional spending in the coming two years. that dealmaking the front pages of several papers. washington post, president trump lauding the bill, saying it will be a two week rush to get that through the house, which leaves after the end of this week and the senate going on august recess next week to get it to the president's desk for a signature. reaction on capitol hill to the big deal coming together. craig kaplan, c-span's capitol hill producer quoting the chairwoman on the appropriations committee saying democrats have insisted on raising unworkable budget caps to make sure congress can responsibly fund the government and uphold the commitment to american families. that is what this agreement does. more reaction, craig kaplan quoting the house minority leader, mccarthy, saying that the deal is not perfect but compromises a divided government. nancy pelosi should put th