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and joining the table editor in chief of "newsweek" magazine tina brown.o cover the steve jobs piece. >> yeah. >> -- edition. >> we love this issue. we put it together so fast in passion. >> a day and a half you did it. >> and when you put it together with passion, it shows, i think. >> can't wait to talk about that. michael steele, let's talk very quickly, though, about herman cain. >> sure. >> flavor of the month. he is this month's michele bauchmann. or rick perry or donald trump, or sarah palin. and last night, he actually, though, was the center of the debate for a while. this 9-9-9 plan that actually introduces a new tax to america and a new national sales tax to america while not getting rid of the income tax. it seems as a conservative to me, it seems like a dangerous step forward with some new taxes. >> well, you know, you make a good point, joe. and it's one of the things i found interesting about the debate. with seven other people on the stage who clearly would like to check herman cain, there was no dissection of the plan. for instance, states

i heard you speaking at "the daily beast" at tina brown's lunch this year. you are so amazing.ecause what you did, you were mothers and women. and you basically said to the regime, to charles taylor, we are sick of being raped and attacked. we will not have this for ourselves, for our daughters. and you all dressed in white and surrounded the pal as and just demanded justice for women. >> yes. definitely. 40 years of rape, 40 years of havoc, 40 years of forceful conviction for our children. we have gotten to the place where death was better than life. and we felt like as women of liberia we needed to do something to change our lives and stepping out to protest the war was the only thing that we could do at that point. sometimes i tell people it was the insurance policy that we were trying to sign for the lives of our children. >> how did you have the courage to go up against the soldiers, the troops, the men? they were all men in charge. >> well, i often say to people, anger is very fluid. when you are angry you have two options. you put it in a better container and it comes ou