earlier, during the 2008 presidential race, tina brown, the magazine editor, cautioned a member of mrs. clinton's inner circle about him. i was hearing harvey's sleaziness with women had escalated since i left talk and she was so wise to be closely associated with him. you have, katie, two different times, right, in our country. 2008 was a different time, our entire history was a different time in the wake of the me, too, movement and what we've seen over the last 24 hours, for example. but from your perspective, from a legal perspective, does there seem to be anything wrong with what happened here? >> well, it shouldn't take the me too movement for somebody to do the right thing. what we know is the campaign staffer and all of the members of the 2008 hillary clinton campaign had to sign nondisclosure agreements. so once again, this nda, the nondisclosure agreement rears its ugly head. we heard about it in terms of harvey weinstein using it as a weapon to silence his victims he was abusing and harassing. so in this particular situation, knowing that her, quote, faith adviser which smac