i am pleased of tina carr at this table for the first time. welcome. >> thank you. >> rose: tell me more about the rory peck trust. >> we're actually very small and work globally to help freelancers because freelancers have always been a part of the news community, very vulnerable, as i'm sure you know. they're having an incredibly tough time right now. the whole climate is changing. the reason that i feel that we're probably more relevant than we've ever been with our work is freelancers are a huge part of independent journalism. the whole journalism landscaped changed. we're noticing a massive change in the amount of people coming to us for the kind of help we give. >> rose: and why is that? for all sorts of reasons. first of all, there are many more freelance journalists than there used to be. and there are many more freelance journalists because news organizations are using them more, because freelance journalists all around the world who have been perhaps working as citizen journalists are really wanting to tell the story of what's going

. ♪ charlie: tina carr is the director of a trust, an organization that protects freelance journalistsund the world. it was founded in 1995 through the trust operates in over 60 countries today. i am pleased to have tina at this table for the first time. welcome. tina: thank you. charlie: tell me more about the trust. tina: we are very small and we were globally to help the coasts freelancers have always been part of the news community, which has been very formidable. they are having any credibly tough time right now. the climate is changing. the whole reason i feel we are more relevant than we have ever been in our work is that freelancers were a huge part of independent journalism. the whole journalism landscape has changed. we are noticing a massive change in the amount of people coming to us for the kind of help we give. charlie: and why is that? tina: for all sorts of reasons first of all -- reasons. first of all, there are more freelance journalists than there used to be. news organizations are using them more because freelance journalists all around the world who have been worki