labor's public health minister has condemned it as tina phobic. i suppose they will oppose the change that working people will support. >> a disaster in constituencies like mine. of good-e moving out quality housing and into the private sector at a cost to the taxpayer. three and four bedroom houses are now empty. meave pensioners approaching saying that they want to downsize but they cannot. is this not turning into a disaster for the taxpayer? >> what this is is fair for the taxpayer. fair roomgive a subsidy to people in private sector accommodations. we should not give a subsidy to counciln console -- in accommodations. they now say they support our spending changes, or they did for five minutes last week. is that still the case or are they committed to repeating this? absolutely no answer. >> the shocking abuse that was revealed by operation jazzman in wales has revealed a gap in the law. the organizations are never accountable for what they allowed to take place. will the prime minister meet with me and a small delegation to discuss how we ca