reporter: frantz would end up at the rhode island school of design, where he would not only meet tina weymoutht also david bryne. after college, the trio moved into a lt in new york city, forming talking heads, getting their very first gig as an opening act for the ramones at c.b.g.b. >> without c.b.g.b., it's-- it's very doubtful we'd be having this conversation right now, because c.b.g.b. was like the incubator for so many bands, and then the springboard out into the rest of the world. >> the name of this band is talking heads, and the name of this song is "psycho killer." >> reporter: during this period, talking heads were rubbing shoulders with artists that would become the giants of american music-- patti smith, television, blondie, and the ramones-- the groups trading slots at america's epicenter of punk rock. talking heads, now a foursome after adding guitar player jerry harrison, considered the vanguards of a music being dubbed new wave. >> we weren't-- weren't alwa sure what weanted to do, but we were very clear on what we did not want to do. some people describe the sound as coming f