when you go down mission street, before you get to tingley, the wall just drops, and that area is isolated from the outer mission, and really they are more of part of glen park than the outer mission. my mother owns a house in that area, so i know it very well. >> thank you. chairman mcdonnell: is there a proposal related to this area >> no proposal yet, but i wanted to hear about the other two pieces. i was interested in possibly rotating a bit in this area. chairman mcdonnell: i am not sure what you mean by the other two pieces. i'm sorry? >> the other out of st. luke's and the area along the 9-11 border to see if there is a population count near 800 that could allow a rotation there. chairman mcdonnell: let's begin with the most significant piece she promised moving. let's start there. >> ok. chairman mcdonnell: if there is not support to do that, then finding the alternative doesn't matter. >> ok. well it seemed to me -- chairman mcdonnell: so you proposed this? paint a verbal picture so people can appreciate where you are going. >> what i am thinking, if we can zoom out for a moment,

are going. >> what i am thinking, if we can zoom out for a moment, for lack of a better term, the tingley we have been discussing, put that back in, and took some population out of st. luke's and randall that we have talked about, the last meeting at least, and put that from nine into eight -- is that how that works? [inaudible] >> i understand, but it is possibly undoing some of that so as to restore the line along 280. it is a possibility, and i'm not ready to present it yet. i am looking if this works. you would have to go north there, over there, and then from nine into 11 along stony brook, stoney ford, stoney-something and madison, into 11, to rotate in a clock wise fashion. and if there are probably 800 people in each chunk, then that works. that is what i am frying to determine. chairman mcdonnell: and the rotation solving? >> if it is appropriate to have the ti inch gley cut-out at 11 or if there should be a border cut there. we have had different things relative to that border. chairman mcdonnell: ok. any questions with regard to understanding the intended rotation? finish your

. >> and then bringing the tingley out of eight into 11. we need to see the population variance for those two moves. i am not interested in the st. luke's move. i don't know if that would get us close enough. >> what he identified in the rotation were three, relatively-speaking approximately 800 populations. that is the puzzle move. >> no. chairman mcdonnell: thank you. mrs. mondejar. -- m's melara. i am not interested in changing our decision we made last time, primarily we made it very deliberately. when the community comes tonight and says you took away this piece, they were not taking into consideration what it would cost elsewhere in their district. we moved something in their district, and next week the people will come back saying you shouldn't have done that. so let's leave it where it is. so no, no, no. chairman mcdonnell: thank you. that's clear. mr. leigh? >> can i ask a question? does the second move require moving st. luke's? chairman mcdonnell: no. the intent is to keep st. luke's in district nine. it has no -- nothing to do w

going to presume for purposes of moving forward that there is not a proposal with respect to the tingley-kayuga? >> i think we voted against it. chairman mcdonnell: no, what we voted against was the rotation. ok. so let's go then to to the sunny side and the conservatory . >> i just had a one-block proposal here. south of monterrey and east of baden -- no. east of there. >> east of -- >> i would de-select that block and now select the block east of that block. >> moving it into seven? >> yes, that is correct. >> yes? >> yes. >> that is a population of 88 people. it would bring the deviation for district seven to negative .71%. >> hold on for one second. one more time. this is a population of 88 people. it would bring the deviation for district seven to negative .71%, and the deviation for district eight to 3.46%. >> say the population again for me, please? >> 88. chairman mcdonnell: and so d 7, negative .71%? >> yes. chairman and you are calling for what here? >> the population. eight lovely people, but i am trying to decrease it. it was the only thing that made sense to me. i thought monterrey