he was a hero to the right and he was friends with tip o'neill and yes he was friends with tip o'neill. tip o'neill sunset the only thing that ronald reagan and tip o'neill hated more than each other's philosophy was getting nothing done in washington. they had a hard and fast rule. we are going to fight like hell all day and at 6:00 we become friends. and they were true to their word ronald reagan used that not just for his advantage but for the country's advantage. when 241 marines were killed in beirut on that terrible sunday morning back in the early 1980s, all the democrats were called together by tip o'neill. richard reeves writes about this in his book. it got mentioned as well in mine they were called out and they thought tip o'neill was going to give them strategy about how to move forward during this tragedy and talk about how the democratic approach would be so much better than ronald reagan's approach. instead, o'neal gathered them together and got up in front of the microphone. he said to them, today we are not democrats. today we are americans and if anybody criticizes th

derby tip o'neill's opinion that day. [laughter] but i knew what to write and he knew what he wanted me to write. if he was thinking about it, he'd be thinking this. if he wanted to type it up, he typed it up. i knew what he wanted me to stay. so i did that for six years and absolutely required nothing go on. never get in trouble, never say the wrong thing. tepid stuff of my life. all the time were up against the toughest. he was the best there was. in fact, he watch the challenger speech down here and he and i watched them while emotional about it. i said peggy arafat speech. i can tell. the next day he called a in an end to congratulate her and thank her for the country. we had good relations with the reagan people like jim baker and kenny duberstein and we would work deals on the site. there is a homeless guy i was on a hunger strike as they're going to name a nuclear submarine a warship to be. it is very cat that, and he said, why are becoming a warship the body of christ? which seem to be a reasonable thing. so i sai

they don't have that report that you're talking about with tip o'neill and reagan and somehow if they don't you know you have a big thing coming up very soon and that's going to be the debt ceiling and that's bigger than this and what are they going to they can't work this out what's going to happen in a few weeks from now so the country is being run by people that don't like each other that don't respect each other and if one says. two and two is for somebody else is going to say it's really not in your dealings in life you've had to deal with people you didn't like yes you have to sign off on agreements you have to get organized i made many deals with people they don't like and you try and figure the people out you study the people you learn you you do what you have to do you get something done and ultimately you want to make the right deal the good deal now in the case of the two of them in particular the two of them because you also have a thing called the senate but they seem to be flagging along but in the case of these two. we really have to have somebody that wants for the goo

>> and tip o'neill, tip was in the house. and what did you learn about this? >> i mean, it was an interesting time and kennedy was at the worst of his life at that point and people said that he was like a skeleton and he turned out to have addison's disease. and he had a low energy house member. the one thing he was was an incredible and incredibly interested politically interested individual and he briefly thought about running for the senate and he did something that the house members are not really knew new back then. he went home every weekend and went home on thursday night and he just combed massachusetts over and spend four years and it was a highway map and there were little pins and it really was the illness and the fact that he really then was looking for the next phase. and he was very interested in housing, which was a big issue in the aftermath of world war ii. and he was a very sharp critic of harry truman and foreign-policy issues and eight big debate onto lost china. and who lost china and kennedy went to the house floor and hammered the admini

. >> reagan and tip o'neill worked out the most important piece of economic legislation, tax reform, and they were polar opposites ide idealogically. it would take a way the loophole that the rich has. he has. touched it in five years. >> and it would be so fun to change the tax code to make it fair and get rid of the loopholes of the extra special. anyway, i'm taking the last word on that, charles. >> you got it. >>> senator ted cruz is demanding an apology and he wants from president obama. and frightening new information from americans on food stamp, yes, more people are on them, but that's not even the most scary part. on the record investigates coming up and you can do it by coming up and you can do it by hashing it out, go your eyes really are unique. in fact, they depend on a unique set of nutrients. [ male announcer ] that's why there's ocuvite thelp protect youeye health. as you, your eyes can lose vital nuients. ocuvite helps replenish key eye nutrients. ocuvite is a vitamin made just for your eyes from the eye care experts as bausch + lomb. ovite has a unique formula that'

tip o'neil pushed him and said i am going to pick a guy. you seem like you are taking this seriously to pick the best person you got. this will be a big deal for new jersey, either get a good case and get the information out or fail to get the information out. it's high stakes. >> it's a serious matter. it is a serious matter because public resources were abused and the real effort to conceal the abuse of resources. we need to get to the bottom of it. it is a serious matter because public resources were abused and the real effort to conceal the abuse of resources. we need to get to the bottom of it. this did one important thing that is not good and it used public confidence. when it saw the bridge could be used to exact political revenge. we have to restore public trust. and that's a very big task for us to do. we have to do it right. we have to have the right resources and the right legal counsel. this has become a lot more complicated because we are in the governor's office and looking at possibly more agencies to look at and more people

remember for example i was in the ford administration white house and jerry ford would rail against tip o'neill's positions on many issues from 9:00 a.m. to 5:00 p.m.. and tip would come right back with his fingers at old jerry ford. at 6:00 p.m., tip would show up at the west wing of the white house to have a bourbon with his old buddy, jerry. that does not happen anymore. you find that the parties are 98-2 in a way and there is very little cross fertilization of ideas or a willingness to compromise and something has got to give. i don't know what it will be but i will tell you this, unless and until we do that we are going to have these types of crises which are showing up periodically. right now the discussions with respect to what essentially is going to be the budget deal, we find out that everyone is thinking well we can do a little bit. what it needs is something our more broader. as i have always said this problem that we are dealing with today in the economy and the budget was essentially solved by simpson-bowles back several years ago. i recall very vividly saying when i saw that propos

you have to do exactly what ronald reagan and tip o'neill did in 1986 with respect to tax reform. you have to do what bill clinton did with speaker gingrich in the '90s, balance the budget. they all had a big goal and different pathways but struck out ahead of the goals ahead of time. we don't know what the goals are. there is no strategy terms of the big picture and when you don't have a big picture which this president really never outlined you will not have any kind of common ground that can be found. that is probably the biggest deficit right now. neil: are you running for president again. >> no. i'm putting forward ideas and helping to bring people together. ne: what do you think about, governor? a lot of your ideas were not well-received at time are deemed more i guess in fashion now. maybe you were just a little ahead of the curve? >> we'll let the marketplace decide, neil. i'm not out tre doing usual and predictable things. i'm trying to help on the sidelines through no labels and underh other undertaking. to find common ground and big ideas for the next generation, govern

the last people who didn't were ronald reagan and tip o'neill, who figured out how to shore up social security, and they made a deal, and they both made compromises, and it worked, and it postpones the day of reckoning for a long time, so if you have the will to compromise, you have to find that, and that is what we are lacking, the will to compromise. that's will comes from the american people. very little change actually comes from washington. it comes from the outside. you guys are making change in your communities all of the time. the ones the work, a lot of them will not work, but the things that do work will spread, and the other thing is you are setting a tone for the future of politics in the united states, and that will make it easier or these guys to do their job as soon as they figure out that they have to start saying -- paying attention to what your values are and not just talking about student loans or things like that to draw you in. one of the greatest things is you're not subject to special interest subjects. student loans matter to you, but what really matters is the

he doesn't like to do that, he's not a schmoozer, he's not like ronald reagan, taking tip o'neill and he's so opposed to conservative americans, since vision of income equality and redistribution is so passionate about that, and it's so opposite what the republican party stands for, that the really there's little common ground. >> i think you're right, it's means and ends. the means he's not the schmoozer. i don't think he's ever given anyone a noogie in his life, let alone a republican congressman. he's extremely intensely ideological. when you listen to him in public, you never hear him give credit to the conservative side of any argument that it at least is respectful of the country and has a national interest in mind, although it might be based on bad assumptions which is what i think everybody owes the other side. you owe him a presumption of good faith, because you say your arguments are not strong. that's not obama. obama says the republicans think of the next election, not the next generation. obama says i think of the national interest, and they think only of their own power

now, democrats held a 53-vote majority in the house, and speaker tip o'neill and majority leader jim wright were confident they could thwart the president's plans for massive reductions in income tax rates which they believed unfairly benefited the rich. finish reagan's job approval rating was 59%, the lowest of any president at such an early point in his presidency since such surveys had begun in the 1940s. and on the very day he was shot, roland evans and robert novak had a syndicated column published that was headlined the reagan honeymoon is truly over. but a month after ray taliban was shot by a deranged young man outside a washington, d.c. hotel, they conceded the democratic-controlled house would have no choice but to pass reagan's tax cut agenda. the shooting had made reagan too popular and too great a hero with the public to refuse his request. reagan had displayed what kennedy himself quoting hemingway had defined as courage. grace under pressure. most americans did not be realize and is still do not realize how close reagan came to dying. he lost more than half of his bloo

revenue neutral tax reform, which is what occurred in 1986 with tip o'neill and president reagan, issomething we should do again. we can lower the rates, broaden the base, and the economy will i think ito end, and will be a wonderful thing for obama to do. to secure his legacy in the last few years. host: the cover story of "cq weekly," what do you make of the budget deal with paul ryan? guest: that is a frustrating one for us, the problem is the deal was pretty small in numbers into a lot of things. at the end of the day, it has unwound part of the sequester, lot tot does not mean a people. but what it should mean is that republicans and democrats back in 2011 promised to cut spending, and now they went back on those words. host: would you define it as a compromise? guest: i did, i do. it is a compromise to grow government. what they're are doing is increasing spending now with the promise of cutting spending later, which is ironic because two years ago they promised to cut spending and they are already breaking that problem. this was a spending increase, and it was a bipartisan com

. >> reagan and tip o'neill worked out the most important piece of economic legislation, tax reform,nd they were polar opposites ide idealogically. it would take a way the loophole that the rich has. he has. touched it in five years. >> and it would be so fun to change the tax code to make it fair and get rid of the loopholes of the extra special. anyway, i'm taking the last word on that, charles. >> you got it. >>> senator ted cruz is demanding an apology and he wants from president obama. and frightening new information from americans on food stamp, yes, more people are on them, but that's not even the most scary part. on the record investigates coming up and you can do it by hashing it out, go to tweeter post on facebook right now using #greta. was also on display, i'd had it. i finally had a serious talk with my dermatologist. this time, he prescribed humiradalimumab. humira helps to clear the surface of my skin by actually working inside my body. in clinical ials, most adults with moderate to severe plaque psoriasis saw 75% skin clearce. and the majority of people were clear or

the former republican leader, bob michael, a mainstream conservative because he was too close to tip o'neill. they weren't snarling at each other. and, yeah, what you have is a real -- you have a reversion now on the part of the republican party back before the new deal. there's one very important point. john boehner says, well, this isn't going to help jobs. that is not only a lack of sympathy, not surprised to see that, but it's appalling economic ignorance. there is a broad consensus based on an obvious fact that unemployment compensation does help create jobs. because it adds to aggregate demand in the economy. every economist understands that. in fact, the unemployment compensation program starting in the '30s is widely, again, hailed by almost all economists as part of the countercyclical set of programs that you have. when you have unemployment, that becomes self-reinforcing. >> right. >> fewer people can work, so they haven't got money to spend and that leads to further unemployment. unemployment compensation, boehner could not be more ignorant in that economic assertion. cutting une

democrats held a 53 vote majority in the house and speaker tip o'neill and majority leader jim wright were confident they could thwart the presence plans for massive reductions in income tax rates which they believed unfairly benefited the rich. reagan's job approval rating was 59%, the lowest of any president at such an early point in his presidency. and on the very day he was shot, rowland evans and robert novak had a syndicated column published that was headlined the reagan honeymoon is truly over. but one month after reagan was shot by a deranged young man outside of washington, d.c. hotel, they conceded the democrat controlled house would have no choice but to pass reagan's tax cut agenda. the shooting had made reagan to popular and too great a hero with the public to refuse his request. reagan displayed what kennedy himself quoting hemingway had defined as courage. grace under pressure. most americans did not realize and still do not realize how close reagan came to dying. he lost more than half of his blood, and the bullet entered his chest came within an inch of his 70 year ol

and we have great examples of people whether it's even reagan and tip o'neill's relationship for comingof the people. i do believe that washington is capable of that, especially when it understands that people are really hurting out there and want to see people talking about issues that affect them. >> and 50 years after lbj created the war on poverty, so nobly led by your father and the whole legacy of sarge shriver carried on by you and your brothers. what would you like the shriver corps to do? >> we're announcing it through the shriver report. what i learned by being first lady in california, there are so many programs that the people don't know about. what we did there is brought them all together. if you're eligible for the earned income tax credit, probably also eligible for health care, might be eligible for food stamps and eligible for energy assistance. there is an innovative ways that the programs can come together and volunteers can actually go out into the streets and help people sign up, stream line the process and modernize the process, innovate on the ground. i'm hopeful

the late democratic speaker of the house tip o'neill coined probably the most popular phrase in american politics. all politics is local. now to me what speaker o'neill meant, whether you're looking at a state representative or state senate race or a state, coon aggressional race, senator's race. governor's race, every jurisdiction, every race is largely independent. what's the population like in that area? what are the voting patterns and voting history? who are the candidates? what kind of campaigns do they have. what resources money and otherwise do they have. what are local issues and circumstance that could influence that race? but the idea that each one of these contests are sort of stovepiped is the current phrase we use, french freestanding independent of all the others. a lot of elections really are like that but there are lot that aren't and from time to time we have these sort of, a lot of people call wave elections, where all politics isn't local and it's where there, almost like there is an invisible hand that sort of pushing up or forward the candidates of one party and pul

tip o'neill famously said all politics is local, and in the case of the george washington bridge scandalnothing implies more about the political stakes here than the front pages of the local newspapers in new jersey and new york. after all, it's stories like these that make the best tabloid fodder. first, here is "the trentonian," which featured a conehead chris christie. "i've got a bridge to sell you." here is a more direct headline from "the asbury press." "do you believe him?" it's a question mark. and then "the new york daily news" that poked fun at more than christie's diminishing 2016 prospects. finally, "the record" shows christie with top aide bridget kelly, "stuck in a jam." by the way, here is why the latest developments in this scandal have obvious political implications for christie's future. let's start with chris christie the governor. it's his deputy chief of staff bridget kelly who writes the new famous e-mail "time for some traffic problems in ft. lee." she sends it to david wildstein, christie's appointee at the port authority who replies, "got it." in october, wildste

interestingly tip o'neill, former house speaker, and his men more said that when kennedy decided he would support this in lawrence seaway was the first time in nearly was going to run for president. there was a sense, perhaps, some political regulation as well. one of the domestic a share want to touch on briefly was the labor issue. and that was a huge issue. some ways i think it might even be analogous to immigration. it was one of these dominant issues of the 50's. kennedy had served on the house labor committee for six years. he was on the senate labor committee for eight years. he was in the senate. was also in a very high-profile committee, mcclellan committee. this was the one domestic issue. paul douglas, fairness and other who was not very inclined to be complementary. he marveled at his ability to understand the nuances and complexities of labor laws, liberal legislation, and kennedy get involved in this very complicated effort to pass the reform. fifty-eight to 59. he passed and the modest bill and the house. it went into a conference committee. he passed a modest bill in the s

the last people who didn't were ronald reagan and tip o'neill, who figured out how to shore up social security, and they made a deal, and they both made compromises, and it worked, and it postpones the day of reckoning for a long time, so if you have the will to compromise, you have to find that, and that is what we are lacking, the will to compromise. that's will comes from the american people. very little change actually comes from washington. it comes from the outside. you guys are making change in your communities all of the time. the ones the work, a lot of them will not work, but the things that do work will spread, and the other thing is you are setting a tone for the future of politics in the united states, and that will make it easier or these guys to do their job as soon as they figure out that they have to start saying -- paying attention to what your values are and not just talking about student loans or things like that to draw you in. one of the greatest things is you're not subject to special interest subjects. student loans matter to you, but what really matters is the

if all politics is local as tip o'neill wisely opined then wole soyinka shows us shakespeare gave us is local as well. it's a doorway through which this great writer ushers us into sublime depictions of the weaknesses and frailties of the human condition. the strength of will necessary to confront and transcend those ever recurring challenges of existence that together make us human. you might say that wole soyinka has taken this motto or malign and hamlet. the action to the word and the word to the action. wole soyinka was born in 1934 in western nigeria. his father was headmaster of the anglican mission school in the village and it was here that he received his earliest education. christian training in school unfolded in parallel with this lived experiences in traditional europe and religious beliefs and culture practices. he attended universal -- university college and then went on to the university of leeds where he read tragedy with g. wilson knight the foremost shakespeare critic of his time and the preeminent marxist critic. he began his artistic ascent as a reader at london's

the kind of tax reform that happened in 1986, the bipartisan deal between ronald reagan and tip o'neilland bill bradley and others. wondrous in terms of its economic effects. host: freddie, indianapolis. democrat. i am classifying myself as a socialist communist. a socialist capitalist. the reason for that. let me tell you. reduce -- a redistribution of wealth. when the people out here do not , someone is going to have to feed them. have jobs to feed themselves, someone will have to feed them. if no one is feeding them, they will not let them go hungry. what do you think of that? guest: thank you for the call. i agree. i do think someone needs to feed them. i think one of the roles of the state is to provide, to give provision for the poor and particularly those who have been poor and needy for no fault of their own. i believe in the welfare state in that understanding of it. that is partly why we wrote this article. , and i think the objective of the most conservatives, is to try to have fewer people who are poor. growth,uires economic peoplemobility, giving skills and talents that the

a lot of time with democrats or republicans up on capitol hill the way ronald reagan did, with tip o'neild and give me your understanding of what he was driving. >> well, i think he thinks that doing all of those things that lbj did, shmoozing only really matters on the margins and the reason he's having trouble getting legislation through is because of the systemic change in american politics. the fact that the republican party has radicalized and moved deeply to the right and the fact that even his own democratic party is filled with individual actors. chuck schumer can come out against the iran policy without any fear of punishment and any fear of party discipline. politics has changed independent of barack obama. but there's no doubt that schmoozing is not his thing. >> mary landrieu in louisiana, it seems that they are running away from the president but necessarily not in photo ops with him. >> look at the states that you named. north carolina, louisiana, you could say the same thing about alaska. these are not states that are easy for democrats in any situation. they can't risk bei

the late democratic like cocktail party speaker of the house tip o'neill coined most popular phrase in american politics. all politics is local. to me what speaker o'neill meant was that whether you are looking representative or tate senate race, or a congressional race, senate race, governor's race, whatever, every jurisdiction, every race, is largely independent. is the population like in that area? what are the voting patterns and voting history? who are the candidates? what kind of campaigns do they have? kind of resources do they have? are the local issues and circumstances that could influence that race? but the idea is that each one of contests are sort of stovepiped as the current phrase we would use. pretty much free standing and independent of the others. a lot of elections are like that. but there are a lot that aren't. rom time to time we have these sort of a lot of people call all wave elections where politics isn't local and it is almost like s there's an invisible hand pushing up or forward the of one party and pulling down the candidates of the other. through history, 1

. >> i need to start with the knowledge meant that i grew up in tip o'neill's district. i don't want to make a recommendation across the board for all of the governors. i would have them look at their particular circumstances in their particular states. old enough of what others have off what others have said, i want to look at the aca is an important opportunity to move forward. there are a number of innovative programs that governors can take advantage of. cmmi, the dual demonstration programs, even the marketplaces are opportunities for governors to experiment. we are going to need experimentation. i think this report is very clear -- the answers are not totally there. they are the process to get there. we know the process, but we need governors to step out and take leadership on this. toi want to take a moment talk about holing this -- pulling this report together. ray, what would you say? >> i think the collaboration is very important. that you canr ways get things to happen in the state. you can pass a new state law, which is oftentimes consuming in terms of runnin

ronald reagan and tip o'neill figured out how to shore up social security. and need hereal their parties like the compromise and it worked. it postpone the day of reckoning for social security for a long time. we are lacking the will to compromise. i said very little change comes from washington. you guys are making change in your communities all the time and you are trying lots of different things. the things that work you're going to spread and you are setting a tone for the future of politics that will make it easier for these guys to do their job as soon as they figure out that they have the start paying attention to your values and not just hope they can talk about student loans. thatf the great things is you are not very subject interest group politics. tonereally matters is the and the possibility and the hope for the future. the last thing i want to say before i close because i was asked to talk about it is the discussion of inequality. i come to the discussion not as a democrat or as somebody that think the poor have to get a better deal in life. i

tip o'neill was the speaker. his district, went home, came back, within 24 hours the congressional black caucus joined with him and put that thing together. so you have like a half ounce, you got five years, 10 years, mandatory. the judge couldn't do anything about it. the point is simply this, what i saw was good brothers, they taught me a lesson. they taught me a lesson that they really didn't like us because we didn't have a relationship with them. the point i'm making is with got to get the family back together. almost half of our folks are not voting. they are not voting because they don't have any respect for us or relationship with us. we know they have done some things they maybe should not have done. some are innocent, as my friend said here as well, but we must -- we are a football team, and half our folks are not in the game. we've got to get them back in the game, solve whatever the problem is and get them back in again. we've got to read the book iv a lady -- >> michelle alexander. >> tennessee, idah

tip o'neill was the speaker. his district -- went home, came back, within 24 hours the congressional black caucus joined with them and put the thing together. years, 10 years mandatory. the judge could not do anything about it. the point is >>. it is this -- the point is simple. it is this. the brothers taught me a lesson. the point i am making -- we have got to get the family back together. almost half of our folk are not voting. they are not voting because they do not have any respect for us or relationship with us. someow that they have done things that maybe they should not have done. some are innocent, as my friend here said, as well. we are a football team and half of our folk are not in the game. we have to get them back in the game and solve what ever that problem is and get them back in the game. we need to read the book by the young lady -- in tennessee. idaho shows you what to do. kick them out. >> all right, appreciate it. going over here. at going to the front row. stand on up, please. that is you. s

the late democratic speaker of the house, tip o'neill coined probably the most popular phrase, all politicslocal. to me what this beaker meant was that whether you are looking at a state representative or state senate race or congressional race, governor's, whatever, that every district or jurisdiction is largely independent. what is the population like in that area? what are the voting patterns and voting history. go who are the candidates? what kind of resources do they have? what are the local issues and circumstances that can influence that race? the idea that each one of these contests are still piped pretty much freestanding independent of all the problem -- of all the others. there are a lot better not. from time to time we have these wave elections where all politics is not local. it is almost like there is an invisible hand that is pushing up or forward the candidates of one party in pushing down the candidates of another. it used to be one per decade and now happening more frequently. our political process is not parliamentary. it is getting more parliamentary than it used to be.

the kind of tax reform that happened in 1986, the bipartisan deal between ronald reagan and tip o'neill and bill bradley and others. it did wondrous in terms of its economic effects. host: freddie, indianapolis. democrat. caller: i am classifying myself as a socialist communist. a socialist capitalist. the reason for that. let me tell you. reduce -- a redistribution of wealth. when the people out here do not have jobs, someone is going to have to feed them. if they don't have jobs to feed themselves, someone will have to feed them. if no one is feeding them, they will not let them go hungry. what do you think of that? guest: thank you for the call. i agree. i do think someone needs to feed them. i think one of the roles of the state is to provide, to give provision for the poor and particularly those who have been poor and needy for no fault of their own. i believe in the welfare state in that understanding of it. that is partly why we wrote this article. my objective, and i think the objective of the most conservatives, is to try to have fewer people who are poor. that requires economi

. >> thank you so much for your particularlyrvice, for tip o'neill. i grew up in the district. arms to's distributes the poor all over the world in 30 different countries in areas of severe conflict. back.ed to touch -- anseems to be a extreme lack of accountability among federal officers. we cannot get a name or a number. shelter, provide food, and we are trying to make ventures. we have a conversation and seem to get anybody at the table. >> it does an outstanding job in certain circumstances. it is heart wrenching in terms of funds consistent with our laws but that have the effect of providing relief at the same time, not just in syria. it comes up in memory -- many troubled parts of the world. i am happy to look into the .uestion we strive to a high level of clarity and communication. toetimes, the issues relate specific matters that are not public matters. i would have to look at the specific matter to respond. >> thank you. >> good morning. stern group. my question is about the trade promotion authority and the headline yesterday in one of the papers about the pushback fr

secretary, particularly for tip o'neill. i grew up in the district. st. paul's to strip its often to the poor all over the world in 30 different countries in areas of serious conflict. i want to touch back on ofac. there seems to be an extreme level, extreme level of accountability among the federal officers at ofac. we can get an income we can get a number. we are trying to provide food, shelter, clothing to people in effigy cans outside of syria. we're trying to make financial transfers. our banks have a question for ofac the conversation with ofac. we can't seem to get anybody at the table. how would you propose building and accountability so we can provide the needed resources to people who have the opportunity to be fanatics and fundamentals but are not precisely because of the aid we are giving them? >> i think ofac does an outstanding job in very difficult circumstances. there are often cases that are just heart wrenching in terms of flows of funds that are inconsistent with our laws, but that have the effect of providing relief at the same time. n

the last people who didn't were ronald reagan and tip o'neill, who figured out how to shore up social security, and they made a deal, and they both made compromises, and it worked, and it postpones the day of reckoning for a long time, so if you have the will to compromise, you have to find that, and that is what we are lacking, the will to compromise. very little change actually comes from washington. it comes from the outside. you guys are making change in your communities all of the time. work, buthem will not the things that do work will spread, and the other thing is you are setting a town for the future of politics in the united states, and that will make it easier or these guys to do their job as soon as they figure out that they have to start saying attention to what your values are and not just talking about student loans or things like that to draw you in. things is greatest that student loans matter to you, but what really matters is the tone and the possibility and hope for the future. the last thing i want to say before i close is the discussion about any quality. to the

the kind of tax reform that happened in 1986, the bipartisan deal between ronald reagan and tip o'neill and bill bradley and others. wondrous in terms of its economic effects. host: freddie, indianapolis. democrat. i am classifying myself as a socialist communist. a socialist capitalist. the reason for that. let me tell you. reduce -- a redistribution of wealth. when the people out here do not , someone is going to have to feed them. have jobs to feed themselves, someone will have to feed them. if no one is feeding them, they will not let them go hungry. what do you think of that? guest: thank you for the call. i agree. i do think someone needs to feed them. i think one of the roles of the state is to provide, to give provision for the poor and particularly those who have been poor and needy for no fault of their own. i believe in the welfare state in that understanding of it. that is partly why we wrote this article. , and i think the objective of the most conservatives, is to try to have fewer people who are poor. growth,uires economic peoplemobility, giving skills and talents that th

he goes on to say what ronald reagan didn't have and tip o'neill didn't do, why they had it so easy,an who can just line up against me on all these issues. so once again, not saying this is what i did wrong, like maybe senator snow said in maine before she left, she said the president has done nothing to reach across the aisle. he's saying it's the political climate he entered into. >> the statute of limitations ran out on blaming bush, so the president needs to blame somebody for his fallen poll numbers. so he blames fox, which, you know, on balance has been fair, reporting what the president has done during this administration. meanwhile, the mainstream media for the most part, white house stenographers. this is not something brand-new, a new strategy where it's like how do we dig ourselves out of this hole? let's blame fox. that's not new. he's done this a lot in the past. >> you talk to somebody who said, well, i don't know. i was watching fox news and they said this is horrible. i've got one television station entirely devoted to attacking my administration. that's a pretty -- >

revenue neutral tax reform, which is what occurred in 1986 with tip o'neill and president reagan, isething we should do again. we can lower the rates, broaden the base, and the economy will i think ito end, and will be a wonderful thing for obama to do. to secure his legacy in the last few years. host: the cover story of "cq weekly," what do you make of the budget deal with paul ryan? guest: that is a frustrating one for us, the problem is the deal was pretty small in numbers into a lot of things. at the end of the day, it has unwound part of the sequester, lot tot does not mean a people. but what it should mean is that republicans and democrats back in 2011 promised to cut spending, and now they went back on those words. host: would you define it as a compromise? guest: i did, i do. it is a compromise to grow government. what they're are doing is increasing spending now with the promise of cutting spending later, which is ironic because two years ago they promised to cut spending and they are already breaking that problem. this was a spending increase, and it was a bipartisan compro

he reminded me of guys like tip o'neil and the people who had been around and were very balanced, hadn't have a lot of interaction with david. he was always very civil to me. in the meetings that i was in, mostly he just listened. so i don't really have -- i didn't hear him say things in the meetings in the situation room that would cause me concern. i know that political advisors to presidents weigh in on national security issues. after all, presidents have to figure out the politics of all these problems. but i really didn't have any -- we basically had a cordial but distant relationship. >> he seems ticked off at your -- the fact that you were inferring he was the secretary of defense. somebody else, valerie jarrett? >> actually valerie was never in any of our meetings. she was basically sort of what was characterized as the power behind the throne, if you will. and so again, we had a cordial relationship, but i literally never saw her in a meeting on national security. >> interesting. can you stick around for one more segment? >> sure. >> all right. more talking with former secret