this is tisch james on how he lied about how much his apartment was worth. >> mr. trump represented that his apartment spanned more than 30,000 square feet, which was the basis for valuing the apartment. in reality, the apartment had an area of less than 11,000 square feet. something that mr. trump was well aware of. and based on that inflated square footage, the value of the apartment in 2015 and 2016 was $327 million. to this date, no apartment in new york city has ever sold for close to that amount. tripling the size of the apartment for purposes of the valuation was intentional and deliberate fraud. not an honest mistake. >> and then we've got from the lawsuit itself, this is the power, i guess, of what you're describing, the legal process, sort of combing through witnesses, including donald trump. when asked about the scheme she just described there, he invoked his fifth amendment privilege. the question, you are aware that from 2012 through 2016 the value of your apartment in trump tower was calculated by multiplying 30,000 square feet times a price per squar