joining me now, vivek tiwary, author of the fifth beatle.ated them as a band and a brand. >> he discovered when they were relatively unknown liverpool group playing small clubs. he saw in the beatles a group that had a great message of love, as cheesy as that is to say, to spread in the world. he also saw in the group a band if presented properly could appeal to everyone, girls, boys, young people, cross-generational. >> you have a book with beautiful imagery. a lot of people love graphic novels, some don't know why someone would choose to tell the story this way. brian as someone who narrated knew they had to have a certain look. >> he came up with the suits, haircuts, imaged the band, found a way to present them so the world could embrace them. he knew their message would be universal if it was presented in such a way everybody could hear it. that's what he did for the band. >> in terms of the graphic medium, the way to tell not only the facts but poetry behind it. apart from being a great beatles story it's a very inspiring human story ab