. >> but it was tliek 56 mortal wound. remember when he said john mccain was wasn't a hero and we thought that was a mortal wound? i actually think with all of these candidates their strength -- and multiplied for donald trump, your strength is your weakness. that's his streng because people want change, they want things shaken up. in a funny way it helped make his brand. >> to make howard's point, every fight he had was with the establishment. whatever it was, no matter what you thought of what he said, it said also, sub stex, i'm not one of them. >> therefore i'm a change agent. >> hieidi the issue here with te tape, i think a lot of women -- the women vote wasn't that bad for him, less than the majority for the republican, it seemed like he benefitted and women weren't as outraged. >> we all went back to our partisan corners. he's point out there was a significant gender gap here and for the first time in a long time the democrats took married women. i don't think we can dismiss this saying that women decided at the end