or should the tnc gain control of the country? >> a proposal to try to address the question -- meanwhile, at their regular meetings attended by the secretary in which other countries have made it available to their resources to the tnc bank accounts, etc., so the process of supporting the tnc is a long term process that requires close cooperation among allies. >> the access to the bank accounts that you refer to it -- are those bank accounts that would be considered to be part of the frozen assets? >> well, it is always a complicated situation when bank accounts are held by one regime but they appear to be for the purpose of a broader group of individuals. senator luger faced this issue in the philippines. exactly a sorting out who is entitled to gain access to the frozen resources is an exercise in which we are actively engaged. >> thank you. >> thank you, senator. we are running up against a couple of time conflicts. there is going to be a vote, perhaps several votes, around 12:10. so we are going to excuse you at this point in

or should the tnc gain control of the country? >> a proposal to try to address the question -- meanwhile, at their regular meetingsttended by the secretary in which other countries have made it available to their resources to the tnc bank accounts, etc., so the process of supporting the tnc is a long term process that reires close cooperation among allies. >> the access to the bank accounts that you refer to it -- are those bank accounts that would be considered to be part of the frozen assets? >> well, it is always a complicated situation when bank accounts are held by one regime but they appear to be for the purpose of a broader group of individuals. senator luger faced this issue in the philippines. exactly a sorting out who is entitled to gain access to the frozen resources is an exercise in which we are actively gaged. >> thank you. >> thank you, senator. we are running up against a couple of time conflicts. there is going to be a vote, perhaps several votes, around 12:10. so we are going to excuse you at this point in time t

or should the tnc gain control of the country? >> a proposal to try to address the question -- meanwhile, at their regular meetings attended by the secretary in which other countries have made it available to their resources to the tnc bank accounts, etc., so the process of supporting the tnc is a long term process that requires close cooperation among allies. >> the access to the bank accounts that you refer to it -- are those bank accounts that would be considered to be part of the frozen assets? >> well, it is always a complicated situation when bank accounts are held by one regime but they appear to be for the purpose of a broader group of individuals. senator luger faced this issue in the philippines. exactly a sorting out who is entitled to gain access to the frozen resources is an exercise in which we are actively engaged. >> thank you. >> thank you, senator. we are running up against a couple of time conflicts. there is going to be a vote, perhaps several votes, around 12:10. so we are going to excuse you at this point in

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the tnc is self appointed and not elected. it does not represent all of libyan society. as has been commented during our debates, we really do not know who all the rebels are. in addition, representatives of in areas -- there are legal complications to recognizing the tnc. it could have the perverse effect of absolving the current libyan regime, including compliance with u.n. security council resolutions because there would no longer be acting on behalf of the libyan state. recognition of a successor government of libya is, in my judgment, best left until the end of the conflict and not prejudge before the parameters of the successor government are resolved. for these reasons, i will oppose the amendment. >> maybe senator rubio has had the opportunity to meet with the members of the rebel government. and maybe has met with all of them and knows. i just feel very uncomfortable. i like the intent of what you are doing. i support what we're doing in libya. but for me, i just feel uncomfortable could these kinds of things can come back and bite you. that has been my experien

heading the agenda, funds to keep the rebel transitional national council, the tnc afloat.er $500 million in cash, for day to stay expenses, france $250 million. kuwait, 150 million. officials stress the money not for weapons and it will be accounted for. >> the last thing we want is to put the tnc in a position where the money flows but they are not -- they don't have the systems in place to actually put it to good use. we think that they do now and we're working to assist them. >> reporter: but on the battlefield, weapons are what the rebels want most. outgunned by gadhafi, improvising to topple the dictator. so this is home made from a tank? >> yes. this is a tank that gadhafi used. the tank is gone, we're using the top of it. just the bottom is in the car. >> reporter: home made weapons but you're using this against his home made tanks, i mean he has much bigger and better weapons than you. >> yes. we're trying to test it for two weeks. the car is still holding. >> reporter: and you made more? >> we got about 60 of those. >> reporter: enabling rebel fighters to take mor

. >> we had said that the tnc is the legitimate representative. they don't hav ctrol over the ole country. there are reasons why we a matter of international lato have formal diplomatic recognition. we look to the time in which they finally get control. and they can have a process in which their very broad based degree of support can be legit mated by a political process. we are supporting them economically. we are giving them-- we have requested the congress to give us authority to give them access to some of the assets of the libyan regime so as a practical matter we are dealing with them as the legitimate entity. >> is it the judgement of the united states government that the rebel forces cannot win with the additional boots on the ground from outside the country. >> no, and they don't want it. one of the things that they are clear to us, i think we hear consistently. we've had senior representatives of the dnc, our own representative chris stiffens on therounds benghazi. the one thing they have said in the beginning this is their fight this ve

the tnc is self-appointed and an elected. it does not represent the full libyan society or all zero elements that will form a successful libyan government. we really do not know who all the rebels are. in addition, representatives of the tnc and representatives of the areas that remain under control are forced to remain anonymous, clouding our understanding of their composition. there are also legal complications to recognizing this. doing so could have the perverse effect of absolving libyan regime of carrying out legal obligations, including compliance with u.n. security council resolutions, because they would no longer be acting on behalf of the libyan state. recognition of a successor government of libya is in my judgment best left until the end of the conflict and not pre- judge before the parameters of the successor government are fully known. it is for these treatments are will oppose the amendment. -- reasons that i will oppose the amendment. >> maybe senator rubio has had the opportunity to meet with the members of t

this is an interim period where we are recognizing the tnc as the interlock for the libyan people. >> if in fact gadhafi were killed in one of the air strikes going after command and control facilities in tripoli or elsewhere, would that help? would that be beneficial to implementing u.n. security council resolution 1973, which authorized the military action? >> well, it's gadhafi who is ordering to fire on the troops. gadhafi is not allowing its people to exercise the legitimate rights and aspirationses. getting gadhafi out of the way with a more respectful government in libya. >> i don't know if you saw this letter that gadhafi has written, among other things he says, we are ready to sit down at the table with appropriate interlocketers. let's find a peaceful solution. is there a diplomatic solution? >> the military, again, is limited protection of civilians. the political and diplomatic is transitional. the international community has been clear with gadhafi. it's what the president has said from the beginning of the operation of what he needs to do to show that he's serious, to sh

recognizing the tnc as the government of libya and unfreezing assets so that they can afford essential services as they march toward tripoli. beyond that libya, america should always promote universal principles that undergird freedom. we should press new friends to end discrimination against women, to establish independent courts, and the freedom of speech and the press. and we must insist on religious freedoms for all, including the region's minorities, whether christian, shiite, sunni, or baha-i. the second -- or bahai'i. the second category is the kings. these kings have understood that they must forge a partnership with their people, leading step- by-step to market -- more democratic societies. these monarchies can smooth the path to constitutional reform and freedom and thereby, deepen their own legitimacy if they choose this route. and if they choose this route, they, too, deserve our help. president obama spoke well about bahrain in his recent speech. but he neglected to order two important words, "saudi arabia." u.s.-saudi arabian relations are at an all-time low, and not prim

it has allowed the tnc to work with the contact group and others as it has begin to envision what a postgadhafi libya look like. it has embraced democratic reform and process. the insurance of basic and civil rights and human rights for the people of libya. these are all positive developments, we believe congress has supported in the past and should continue to support it and will. and we continue as we have said from the beginning to welcome the support from congress that would come in this case in the form of resolution put forward by a bipartisan group of senators including senator mccain and kerry. >> very quickly, ten senators filed a lawsuit on libya today. have you seen the lawsuit? do you take it seriously? >> well, we are aware. the report that we will be sending up to congress later today answers a lot of questions that members have, continues a process of consultation that have been broad and deep and consistent. more now, but continues the process that allowed me to say, i believe, last week, that there have been 40 disstate engagements with congress in terms of consultation on liby