we have relationships with taxis, not tncs. we have worked closely with the app developer to make it easy to use by riders in wheelchairs so they can access ramp taxis quickly. it is something they feel strongly about. we are always trying to improve that out. >> are they able to pay seamless? >> you would present your debit card to pay for the trip. >> do you have a sense of what premium is paid for a tax see as opposed to using it. >> those are your lifts and ubers. >> transportation network companies, tnc. actually the paratransit rainedder that uses the app did not have to pay. it is totally free to end user. they will not pay extra because they e-hailed a taxer. >> if one did, taxis are more expensive than tnc, correct. >> it depends. they don't have search pricing and so forth. it depends. i don't think a study is done on that yet. >> maybe since you have users who have access to technology you are working towards incorporating the payment module into the technology. >> that would be the next step. >> there are carpool op

. >> here to react this morning tnc interim chair and fox news contradict tore to know that what do youbeen there as a deputy campaign manager and as a staff person if you're running out of money it means that you're running out of fuel you cannot maintain, you know, offices and all of the key states. pay staff people which, of course, staff people need to get paid. and this is the worst part, the candidate can't travel i mean if you don't have the resources to compete, then it is important that perhaps this is time to say good-bye to 2020 and remember, corybooker is a young man. he has a bright future a proven leader this is not the end of coy booker but campaign is running out of funds. >> donna before we transition to impeachment -- big picture, though, what does this tell us beyond cory booker you've had de blasio just get out in the last 24 hours. is this race for democrats coming into sharper focus and becoming more and more sort of biden sanders warren race? >> yes, it is coming into sharper focus for two reasons we're in the fall one we're in the most important phase that is the