should leave now or have to leave now but at the same time we believe it's imperative for us to do whatevere can to ensure there is an all-encompassing decision? >> when we are the public advocate of the departure of a man with whom we worked for 30 years, whatever mistakes we may have made to prolong that period i would prefer for this emerge from an egyptian consensus encouraged by the united states and out of which emerges a genuinely democratic structure nobody asks or we should ask a question of what does the muslim brotherhood really stand for? we know their foreign policy views. they're uniformly hostile to the united states. so... >> but we can't control the foreign policy... the domestic policy of a country like egypt. they represent, let's say, 20%, 25% of the public. i don't know what they represent. but they ought to be... should they not part of a process because they do have... >> well, it depends what you mean part of the process. they should have a chance at a free election and they should an opportunity to participate in an election it's not self-evident to me that they have