tobias elwood, thank you so much for joining us. know you're soon going to go, when that bell rings, to make your vote. so as members of parliament bicker over the path forward, a common theme is setting in amongst the british public. just figure it out. >> i think it's a bit of a waste of time. i don't understand the point of this vote in the first place because as a country -- so what was the point? >> i thuink a second referendum definitely. the people should decide. in 2016, we didn't know about all those problems. >> i'm fed up because everyone is in it for themselves. they're not worried about the working class like me. >> i think they're behaving like children if you want the honest truth. >> acting like children or not, they're the ones who have to sort all of this out. that is the clear message from the european union today. franz timmerland is first vice president of the european commission, which is the executive arm of the european unity which has led talks with britain. he tells me after a year and a half of negotiation

this deal if she fails on tuesday night one man who may have a little insight is defense minister tobias elwood joins me now here on college green outside parliament thanks so much for your time first of all let me ask you is this a good deal for britain. it's the best deal that we can that on as the referendum result and as you say in your introductory piece it doesn't get bigger than this in peace time i'm all in peace very conscious of the of the the burden the weight of shoulders the decision that we have to say and in addition to trying to honor that referendum result i'm also saddened today because if we do take a step away from the european union it will reflect badly on on everybody including the european union and i just wish the european union had done more to allow a little bit more flexibility and transparency and accountability in the democratic processes and in competition as well because what you see happening in australia in poland in basically in hungry and so forth what's happened here in britain might be repeated and the european union has been very inflexible in recognizing

from now is the first time we'll see her on wednesday i'm joined to talk more about this by tobias hill elwood he's a defense minister in trees amazed and of course also a conservative party m.p. thanks for joining us is she going to survive she will big defeat yesterday and we have to move on but this is a distraction by the leader of the opposition who stands at the dispatch box but he doesn't have a unified army behind him a doesn't have visitation on bricks and he's an opportunist and that's what we're having to deal with today so was there have been divisions on the bricks at issue in the parliamentary party the conservative party i'm sure that they will it will unite without coalition partners to support the prime minister nobody wants a general election she then says that she will hold quote constructive talks with other employees cross party and these to try and find a plan b. but she's ruled out the customs union that labor want to is ruled on a second referendum many others want is that a viable way to search for a plan b. to kind of to kind of exclude what most people want and just