tobluntly, this was a super bowl world class elite team in crisis management that to put it bluntly was at the top of their form there. we moved in to 17 and it was with a degree of melancholy. i don't think there's any person alive who had worked the lunar program, who had worked these missions, that started to say, hey, we've been to the moon, what do i do after this? i was looking at the end of my era in mission control as a flight director. i had to find some way to inspire a next generation of controllers to go on and say sky lab and earth orbit circling endlessly in there is equally as exciting as it was going to the moon and i had to convince that -- it was a traumatic period, period of great change as an organization, as teams, and personally. and the final thing that jerry griffin and i decided to do, all previous flight directors, they were in the console one day, and then the next mission they weren't there anymore. and kraft had gone out that way. lunny had gone out that way. charlesworth had gone out that way. we determined this wasn't going to be the way we handed over the