toby williamson is the chief executive of the fishmongers' company — who own fishmongers hall near londonon spoke to the bbc about the how events unfolded inside the hall and paid tribute to how his staff handled the stiuation. at our conference making opportunity for other people, it turns into a game of pinball bomb with added knives. this is extraordinary things happening done by ordinary people. let me just bounce you round. in reception, you've got dawn and gareth one trying door closed against a vicious knifeman and the other calmly placing the emergency calls. peter, anna, they appear on scene. wrong time, wrong place and make instant decisions as to who to protect and where to go. you get allah and sandra normally dealing with coats and serving coffees and now facing a life moment. and then famously, you get andy and lukasz starting a fight back. they used fire extinguishers, they used chairs. they used these narwhal tusks ripped off the wall in the heat of the moment and they took the game back to the knifeman. when that door was forced open at knife point, they follow out onto t

this afternoon, toby williamson, who i’u ns this afternoon, toby williamson, who runs fishmongers hallry of his staff who had been helping people at this conference when the bloodshed began. this is an extraordinary thing happening done by ordinary people. let me just bounce you round. in reception, you've got dawn and gareth, one trying to keep the door closed against a vicious knifeman and the other calmly placing the emergency calls. alla and sandra, normally dealing with coats and serving coffee, now fighting a life moment, and then famously you get andy and lucas starting a fight back. they used fire extinguishers, they used chairs, they used these tasks ripped off the wall in the heat of the moment and they took the game back to the knifeman. usman khan also killed jack merritt, another cambridge university graduate who worked with prisoners to help them reform. usman khan was one of the people he had assisted, a man who was released last december after serving eight years in prison for terrorism offences but turned on jack merritt and stabbed him to death. this afternoon, some o

this afternoon, toby williamson who i’u ns this afternoon, toby williamson who runs fishmongers‘ hallce was at the scene and told the bbc about the bravery of his staff who had been helping people at this conference when the bloodshed began. this is extraordinary things happening done by ordinary people. in reception, you've got don and gareth, one trying to keep the door closed against a vicious knifeman, the other calmly placing the emergency calls. ali and sandra normally dealing with coats and taking coffees, no life moment, and famously you've got andy and lucas starting a fight back using fire extinguishers, chairs, they used narwhal tusks ripped off the wall in the heat of the moment and took the game back to the knifeman. usman khan also killed jack meritt, another cambridge university graduate who worked with prisoners to help in reform. usman khan was one of the people he had assisted, a man who was released last december after serving eight years in prison for terrorism offences but turned on by mike and stabbed him to death. this afternoon, some of jack's friends came to l

toby williamson there. choosing his words with care.shmongers company which i’u ns of the fishmongers company which runs fishmongers hold there. —— fishmongers hall there. the attacker, usman khan, had been released on licence for his involvement in planning terror attacks. one plant on the london stock exchange and plans for a training camp in pakistan —— planned on the london stock exchange. the prime minister has told the bbc that 7a people jailed for terror offences and released early will have their licence conditions reviewed. earlier we spoke to ian lawrence, who's the general secretary of napo, the union that represents staff in the probation service. he's also a member of the labour party. he explained that the highest levels of supervision from probation would have been in place. the first thing i want to say is add my condolences, those of our members, to the victims and their families of this dreadful incident. it is truly appalling. in terms of the management of these high—risk offenders, we prefer to call them clients, tha

today, toby williamson, who runs the venue where the attack took place, was at the scene and told theence when the bloodshed began. this is an extraordinary thing that‘s happening, done by ordinary people. let me just bounce you round. in rece tion ou‘ve got dawn and gareth — one trying to keep that door closed against a vicious knifeman, the other calmly placing emergency calls. and then famously, you get andy and lukasz starting a fightback. they used fire extinguishers, they used chairs, they used these narwhal tusks ripped off the wall in the heat of the moment and they took the game back to the knifeman. usman khan also stabbed jack merritt, another cambridge university graduate specialising in helping prisoners to reform. khan was one of the people he‘d assisted after his release from an 8—year prison sentence for plotting terrorism, but he turned onjack merritt and killed him. this afternoon, some of jack‘s friends came to london bridge to mourn him, and the head of cambridge university paid him this tribute. well, we‘re devastated. i metjack only once but i must say that he im

today, toby williamson, who runs the venue where the attack took place, was at the scene and told the bravery of his staff, who had been assisting at this conference when the bloodshed began. this is an extraordinary things happening, done by ordinary people. let me just bounce you round. in rece tion ou've got dawn and gareth — one trying to keep that door closed against a vicious knifeman, the other calmly placing the emergency calls. and then famously, you get andy and lukasz starting a fightback. they used fire extinguishers, they used chairs, they used these narwhal tusks ripped off the wall in the heat of the moment and they took the game back to the knifeman. usman khan also stabbed jack merritt, another cambridge university graduate specialising in helping prisoners to reform. khan was one of the people he'd assisted after his release from an 8—year prison sentence for plotting terrorism, but he turned onjack merritt and killed him. this afternoon, some of jack's friends came to london bridge to mourn him, and the head of cambridge university paid him this tribute. well, we're

today, his boss, toby williamson, the chief executive of fishmongers‘ hall, paid tribute to his braveryment when he heard screams and ran to help. as the first aider, he makes the choice, he goes towards the trouble and he gets there on the first floor of the building just behind me. and it is pretty clear there is a bad guy, he's got two knives in his hands, there is blood, screaming and chaos. he pulls off the wall this long stick, he charges towards the bad guy and impacts him on the chest. and there is clearly something here that is protective, and it doesn't make any sort of impact. but he is buying time, he allows others to escape, to move to adjacent rooms. at that point, he has got about a one minute one—on—one straight combat. this guy, we now know by the name of khan. he works his way up lucasz‘ pole, smashing with this knife, and he takes five wounds to his left side, and is going to lose some strength on that side. but he has done what he needed to do in the first instance, he pulls off the wall this long stick, he charges towards the bad guy and impacts him on the chest. an

this afternoon, toby williamson who runs fishmongers' hall where the attack took place, was at the sceneabout the bravery of his staff who had been helping people at this conference when the bloodshed began. this is extraordinary things happening done by ordinary people. let me just bounce you round. in rece tion ou've got dawn and gareth, one trying to keep that door closed against a vicious knifeman, the other calmly placing the emergency calls. alla and sandra, normally dealing with coats and serving coffees, now fighting a life moment, and famously you've got andy and lucas starting a fightback using fire extinguishers, chairs, they used narwhal tusks ripped off the wall in the heat of the moment and they took the game back to the knifeman. usman khan also killed jack merritt, another cambridge university graduate who worked with prisoners to help them reform. usman khan was one of the people he had assisted, a man who was released last december after serving eight years in prison for terrorism offences, but turned on jack meritt and stabbed him to death. this afternoon, some of jack

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toby williamson said his colleagues helped fend kahn off when he launched his attack in a nearby building. >> didn't have any choice. it's in your face. it's right there. and i just hope that we can all do the right thing in those moments. >> i'm no terrorist. >> reporter: despite these words in 2008, kahn was arrested two years later for taking part in a plot to blow up london's stock exchange. he was sentenced to 16 years in prison but released early on probation last year. on friday he was attending a conference for rehabilitating prisoners when his killing spree began. his victims, 23-year-old saskya jones and 25-year-old jack merritt, were part of the group that organized the conference. the attacker ran on to london bridge. >> i thought, please don't be like 2017. it was similar with the chaos. >> reporter: in june, 2017, three attackers inspired by isis killed eight people on the bridge and surrounding area. earlier, a man drove a car on to westminster bridge killing four, then stabbing a police officer. in the past two years, the country has not had a major terrorist incident. onl

toby williamson, the chief executive of fishmongers' hall — where the attack began — says his staff putain upi it has unfolded. good morning britain up i left the building just beforehand. we are having a charity conference with our partners, doing great work in prisoner rehabilitation and mental health and of course something extraordinary broke out. i will tell you one viewpoint. the police statements will peace all this together but there is a guy called lucas. he is there is a guy called lucas. he is the guy who cleans the glasses down in the basement. and that is exactly what he was doing the screen was so loud. he makes the choice to go towards the trouble. he gets there in the first floor behind me and it is quite clear there is a bad guy, he has two knives in his hand and there are screams and chaos. lukasz pulls off the wall a long stick and charges towards the bad guy and impacts him on the chest and there is clearly something here, he is protective and doesn't make any sort of impact but he is buying time, he allows others to escape and move to adjacent rooms. at that point h

earlier this week his boss, toby williamson, explained to us exactly what lucasz did.ike crofts, a former british army officer who rushed to give first aid to pc keith palmer during the terror attack in westminster in 2017. sadly, pc palmer died of his injuries. mike now runs a project which mentors young men in custody and he joins us from our london newsroom. thanks for coming on this morning and talking to us about it. there are so many things to try and get through after what we saw happening in london on friday in what we've seen over the weekend as well, and the description of those traumatic events as well. did it bring back a bit of what you went through on that day? good morning, down. whenever you see an attack like this happen again you can't help but be reminded of traumatic events you might have previously been involved in, myself or westminster, but many other people involved in several events in 2017. what is it like being a witness to such traumatic events? it is probably unique to everybody how they react, but even commuters who had not been in london

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