mind coming out a certain side thank you very much i have a couple of other comments i think that todco raised some things to include the balance ladder and the light and security cameras and security officer to hope discourage drivers are not careful and anti social activities that can occur in alleys that provide a nice space for people with its use this is a really good idea and the gentleman had a good idea to have a city policy dissatisfied pub and privately owned public spaces they could do the same thing by retrofitting an alley thank you very much. >> commissioner johnson. >> thank you very much just reilly real quick thank you for the report a good job and just a couple of things those comments are in light of the fact it sound like an excellent idea to make it light but the project is sort of an experience we're talking about stared alleys whether or not there's closed off vehicular traffic through needs to be thought butt put into different models to segregated uses and the work what we're doing with embarcadero what started off as a long park with shared uses from walking to

better coordination to make sure we're not doing design reiteration i want to pigged on the comments of todco there's a paper out in berkley last year called the something, something not green enough the goal is not making the most beautiful and wonderful design what having a people based assessment of what the people in the alleyways means maybe not the most beautiful alleyways but salesladies it is public safety improvements it is meeting the needs of people living there i made this comment similarly there's a possibility those kinds of things make it more attractive for other people to come into the neighborhood and noting not serving the needs of the resident and we get into the questions of the implementation or decided placement not a one-on-one coordination wanting to make sure we're investing in the needs of community. >> commissioner hillis. >> a question on funding you mentioned there's funding available is that only from octavia or is - >> will i'm not sure of the eastern neighborhoods i'm not sure if this year's for alleys but market octavia is - >> i have to say they have to be s