if you think todd buchholz won the debate hurry to the next event. if you think mark skousen won you can amble along to the next debate. i want to announce todd buchholz will have a book signing at 3:30 this afternoon. if you want to pick up a copy of "rush" he will be there at 3:40 in the back of the exhibit hall. thanks for coming. [applause] >> for more information on the author visit todd buchholz.com. >> on capitol hill the senate is holding a special weekend session to work on debt and deficit legislation. because of senate coverage booktv's schedule has changed. visit booktv.org to what many of this weekend's programs including footage of the trip to south carolina and parts one and two of reinvest 2011. >> i recent visit to charleston booktv took a look at the charleston library society. >> the charleston library society was founded in 1748 which makes it the third oldest circulating library in the united states and the oldest cultural institution of any kind in the south. it was founded by 19 young men in charleston as a way to get books and

todd buchholz, author of "rush." this runs about 50 minutes. [inaudible conversations] >> all right, hello and welcome back. we are here to debate the rat race, good or bad for americans. the first is mr. todd buchholz come a former white house director of economic policy, award-winning harvard professor, a managing air of the tiger hedge fund and the author of several books, including most recently "rush: why you need and love the rat race." so, he will be arguing the pro side of robbery scene. now, taking the opposite point of view will be dr. mark skousen, a professional economist, investment expert, professor of rollins college and columbia business school, founder of freedom fest, the world largest neediness reminds him also the author of more than two dozen books, including most recently, the maxims of wall street. now, lily tomlin once said that the trouble with the rat race is even if you win, you are still a rat. but mr. buchholz will disagree with that point of view. but then the more lackadaisical mark scouts skousen will put up a de

mark skousen makes a good case for leisure if not downright sloth but todd buchholz makes the interesting point that ninety-five% of human history was pre agricultural land people didn't wonder about the meaning of life. it was eat and survive and get your genes to the next generation. there was a historian who spoke at freedom fest a couple years ago who said something profound. if you really believe things were better in the good old days i have one word for you -- industry. any way you have a question? turn the microphone on. tell me your question and i will repeat it. [inaudible] >> -- reputation of there are no winners or losers. mark is answering the philosophical question of what is the good life. it seems to me not so much at debate -- if you can answer what is the good life -- >> microphone is on. >> if you can answer what is the good life, what mark is talking about it makes you more effective in the race. i want your comment on how opposite you opposed to each other or are you really sort of saying the same thing in different ways? >> you make a good point. i am sure we don't h