todd maximilian caught himself stressing that he only heard of these uh, latest news from press reports that he had nothing else to add. but that obviously if confirmed that will have specific consequences. and china also reacting to this on 2 other cases of alleged spying. basically saying that those reports that, that to discredit tie not this case is also particularly relevant brand because it comes on the hours off to several other people in an unrelated to case we're also detained here in germany for spying, allegedly, for china and on back particular case or not today's, but yesterday's case. i actually spoke exclusively to the head of germany's domestic intelligence agency. and this is what he had to say. this is this one on file. so this case is a particular significant screen. we are dealing with a case of proliferation, which also involves weapons new, have this no haul from, from this case shows that china is also active in gemini, on that there are cases of proliferation. here here, 45 jones from the federal officer was involved in the investigation at a very early stage of