government which has seen its share of computer breaches i can attest to over the years let's ask todd shipley the c.e.o. of vera software who joins us from the self-proclaimed biggest little city in the world reno nevada todd thank you for joining us sure appreciate it having me today ok so you know todd we have this new secretary of homeland security kirsten nielsen she was the chief of staff for john kelly general john kelly who's now the chief of staff for the white house for president trump a she was confirmed by the senate not very long ago tell us. you know anything about here you think she's going to be good for cybersecurity the department of homeland security's the really sort of the head of all of these efforts what's your take. well i think the fact that she's got some background in cyber security is important for all of us as we get further down this road where infrastructure protection cyber security is the biggest piece of it now having the fact that she's got some background and it is important for all of us especially department homeland security which is two hundred thousand

system proving that even biometrics aren't hack proof to talk more about this we're joined now by todd shipley president of euro software now todd to be clear this company's spent time beforehand making a face mask to help them get past the system and the real user had to be present to unlock the phone each time that mask failed so with that in mind how big of a deal is this really well thanks for having me on today it is a big deal because they did it within two weeks of the i phone ten coming out so the fact that they were able to actually fabric eat something that was to get around it needs to be a concern for everybody if they can do it that quickly. well over time our faces can change whether it's because it age or make up or in some cases plastic surgery so why don't we just stick to fingerprints what is the alert of facial recognition technology. well i think the lure is that it's the ease of use.

system proving that even biometrics aren't hack proof to talk more about this we're joined now by todd shipley president of euro software now todd to be clear this company's spent time beforehand making a face mask to help them get past the system and the real user had to be present to unlock the phone each time that mask failed so with that in mind how big of a deal is this really. well thanks for having me on today it is a big deal because they did it within two weeks of the i phone ten coming out so the fact that they were able to actually fabricate something that was to get around it needs to be a concern for everybody if they can do it that quickly. well over time our faces can change whether it's because that age or make up or in some cases plastic surgery so why don't we just stick to fingerprints what is the alert of facial recognition technology. well i think the lure is that it's the ease of use and a lot of people like the ability view that they just look at the phone the phone pops right open but this is not the all the vietnamese cases not the only time that has been broken in tha

system proving that even biometrics aren't hack proof to talk more about this we're joined now by todd shipley.

government which is seed its share of computer breaches i can attest to over the years let's ask todd shipley the c.e.o. of various software who joins us from the self-proclaimed biggest little city in the world reno nevada todd thank you for joining us sure appreciate it having me today ok so you know todd we have this new secretary of homeland security kirsten nielsen she was the chief of staff for john kelly general john kelly who's now.