and time not for a super quick break but stick around because when we return todd shipley the c.e.o. of vero software joins us to talk cybersecurity and what was the role of business community in president trump's alter guys he altered his separating families immigration policy i'll give you my answer as we go to break here the numbers at the closing bell stocks down the dow down two hundred boiled oil is also down all across the board today on stocks but we're right back. right we're all set to start in five guys. has a signal. he's not going to talk about. just maybe right after the mars explorers one who would have their. own record. to say well. you know. ok listen. welcome to sophie and tell him says the sheriff not said today we've got lots to talk about in our program and our gas to. little rock that. loop. when a loved one is murdered it's natural to seek the death penalty for the murder i would burn it. meanwhile in the death penalty just because i think that's the fair thing the right thing research shows that for every nine executions one convict is found innocent the idea

todd shipley todd welcome let's get let's cut right to the chase let me get this right in on it always great to have you type so is a good defense the best office in cyber security. well i think it has to be an option for everybody to be able to do that now certainly it's something that we don't normally do because defense is what we can do within companies we can't go out to other companies and break into them and stop something but from a military point of view we have to have that advantage and be able to go out there and stop the things that are occurring you have to look at what we've already done with isis and other places around the world where we've done offensive operations they've worked and so they have to be something that's on the plate book for the military to be able to do and when we look at these things going on are all around the we're world does that make you nervous at all that we're going to be more aggressive in the cyber command. should we be ready for retaliatory strikes well i think that we have to have that option now whether they're going to use it or not we

one candidate and you immigration plus we'll talk cyber security in light of some new news with todd shipley the c.e.o. of barrow software and does the business community to help change president trump's mind one is separating families policies i'll give you my take all that ahead but first let's have some have. there's big news in the online retailer sector as the u.s. supreme court today issued a five to four ruling in the case of south dakota versus wayfair that allows states to tax online retailers for purchases made in the state even if the retailer has no physical presence there justice kennedy writing for the majority said a previous supreme court ruling that prevented states from doing so quote puts both local businesses and many interstate businesses with physical presence at a present at a competitive disadvantage relative to remote sellers stocks for online vendors such as amazon and etsy took the market hit today as well as a losing defendant in the case where incorporated the ruling is an enormous relief for states that have seen their tax base erode as congress moves online the

one candidate and you immigration plus we'll talk cyber security in light of some new news with todd shipley c.e.o. of vero software and does the business community help change president trump mind one is separating families policies i'll give you my take all that ahead but first let's go to some have. there's big news in the online retailer sector as the u.s. supreme court today issued a five to four ruling in the case of south dakota versus wayfair that allows states to tax online retailers for purchases made in the state even if the retailer has no physical presence there justice kennedy writing for the majority said the previous supreme court ruling that prevented states from doing so quote puts both local businesses and many interstate businesses with physical presence at a present at a competitive disadvantage relative to remote sellers stocks for online vendors such as amazon and etsy took a market hit today as well as a losing defendant in the case where there are. incorporated the ruling is an enormous relief for states that have seen their tax base he wrote as congress moves online