but for the case like the cameron todd willingham story which was about this man who was executed for setting a fire that killed these three children and may, in fact, been innocent. and when i began that story, i called his defense attorney. and you mentioned this. and his defense attorney said to me, oh, yeah, he did it, he definitely did it. and i hung up the phone, and i said, well, he has to be guilty. his own defense attorney thinks he's guilty. so that was kind of where i began. and then i went on a journey that began to really raise serious questions about the reliability of the evidence in the case. >> well, in so many of the, well, i mean, that story in the particular is about crime. and there's another story not about a murder, but about identity. i don't even know if it's identity theft. it's a frenchman, and it's just so haunting about this man, frenchman who poses as the lost son of an american family and convinces them, i mean, against the evidence, it's just chilling how he burrows in and dupes these people. but i'm just wondering especially with the story about willin