government liberal, he's also on the progressive territory where, for 20 years, he was hanging out with toffler at third wave, which is moving the united states away from our current form of government. newt gingrich has all kinds of trouble with illegal immigration, he was for the $700 billion t.a.r.p., for the libya invasion, he has been for every issue that our basis against. and he has a lot of trouble on the pro-life issue and marriage issue as well. >> as you raise -- forgive me for interrupting -- as you raise the policy distinctions with speaker gingrich, this quote, something your south carolina spokesman said about newt gingrich. donahue said gingrich is buying votes. bachmann is trying to grow an organic base of sporters. newt gingrich is trying to buy off tea party groups. newt gingrich knows the only way to get the tea party vote is to buy it. does your campaign have any evidence that speaker gingrich is doing anything improper, he's buying votes? >> well, westly would have to speak to that himself for what evidence that he has. but this is something that we've been hearing across