looking at cuts to medicaid and toicare, they are ready seize on this as political attacks. just to go back a second. mit012, met romney -- romney used a lot of arguments about medicare cuts saying that obamacare had cut medicare. -- the arguments that were used had to do with some of the same proposals you are seeing in the trump budget. lower payments to hospitals and doctors. one of the big differences we would see if the budget were to have a change is that doctors who work in a hospital would get the same payment as those who perform certain procedures outside of the hospital. that is one of the big changes that the obama administration had proposed. host: the health and human inretary on capitol hill front of the house energy and commerce committee was asked about these cuts. i would like you to take a listen to the exchange. [video clip] how do you reassure the american people that what they count on, what is really necessary in their lives, medicare beneficiaries, medicaid beneficiaries, that these numbers, what these numbers will do to them? these are massive cuts.

looking at cuts to medicaid and toicare, they are ready seize on this as political attacks.t to go back a second. mit012, met romney -- romney used a lot of arguments about medicare cuts saying that obamacare had cut medicare. -- the arguments that were used had to do with some of the same proposals you are seeing in the trump budget. lower payments to hospitals and doctors. one of the big differences we would see if the budget were to have a change is that doctors who work in a hospital would get the same payment as those who perform certain procedures outside of the hospital. that is one of the big changes that the obama administration had proposed. host: the health and human inretary on capitol hill front of the house energy and commerce committee was asked about these cuts. i would like you to take a listen to the exchange. [video clip] how do you reassure the american people that what they count on, what is really necessary in their lives, medicare beneficiaries, medicaid beneficiaries, that these numbers, what these numbers will do to them? these are massive cuts. >> o