were down tolbert sorry about that. we just opened with two, three seconds in and at the moment were down about 1920 points. there you have it. if you look on the left-hand side of the screen not that many winters winners. i'm counting nine winners out of the dow 30 and the dow is down 28-point bid s&p 500, any difference there? down the tiniest of affections. i call that flat to ever so slightly lower and the nasdaq compartment because that is where the techs are among zero change. down .01%. now it's unchanged but 862,100 go back to apple, the market is open at 267 as we speak. and why don't we look at pella tog. we are at 3493 up another 16 cents and the ceo is doubling down on that controversial ad. he says will keep on running that thing. and we have this. a bullish call on the market from j.p. morgan and investment firm and says s&p 500 will be up 8% next year, 2020. getting a lift from the accelerating economy. that's quite a forecast. >> yes, and for a big investment house. they are traditionally very conservati