freedom, equality, toller rans, understanding, and justice.thursday by locking arms by whomever you are with, stranger or loved one, and include in this moment of unification. lisa depasquale author of "the social justice handsbook." sarah, i wants to go to you first. most of of the -- a lot of the anger towards these protests are from people who believe these athletes don't understand or respect the sacrifice that men and women have given to serve and protect this nation from the very beginning. what are your thoughts? >> obviously that's the way president trump and his supporters are continue interpreting these protests. another side is interpreting them as bringing attention to racial inequality. now the protests are about pushing back on trump. this is always the fear of trump's allies. they don't want the president to get into a controversy every thursday, sunday and monday, and that seems to be what happened since he first started pushing back on the nfl. they are inviting president trump to get deeper into this controversy. charles: col