the world that i can say why this place is mine", and i started thinking of myself as a deter tollialized brownson. it was when i got to graduate school and i thought about that experience of being a deterritorialized person, knowing yourself home in many places, but not wholly at home in any. it occurred to me this is not just my experience, there are, people. >> i think there may be a lot of people. i think it's part of the modern experience. did that lead you to write this "history is real, cultures are real, but countries are invented." was it the feeling of not having a geographical home? >> no. that's not what led me to write that. what led me to write that was going to grad school studying international studies, and how we came to here in the first place. i was curious about what the countries were. it was clear to me from an early age that there were something off about the concept. or something i wasn't told, because my mum is - we call her nigerian, and father ghanan. when my mother was born nigeria didn't exist and neither did ghana. how can your salient identity be younger than you?