in addition to them, everybody knows about loring and tolliver.n addition to them the original document sent off here to richmond has the signatures of if not every, virtually every field officer of all the regiments under them. the only ones that weren't signing are the ones who weren't there. the very first one on that list, if it matters, the first one physically, the top of the list of field officers was samuel v. fulkerson of the 37th virginia. some of you may recognize him as jackson's favorite colonel. he said so a couple of times. fulkerson was destined to be killed a few thousand yards from here, gainesville mill. when word came to jackson, he actually shed tears. his favorite field officer. i doubt that he knew that fukerson was at the top of the list. so this mutiny against jackson was not only deeper than it seemed but probably more significant about his standing in the army and out. think, too, about the prospect, had all the army, the general officers, the field grade officers, had they been as disgusted with jackson in june for some

in addition to them, everybody knows about loring and tolliver. in addition to them the original document sent off had the signatures of if not every, virtually every field officer of all the regimens under them. the very first one on that list, if it matters, the first one physically, the top of the list of field officers was sam kwrl v.volkerson. some of you may recognize him as jackson's favorite colonel. he was destined to be killed a few hundred yards from him. his favorite field officer. i doubt that he knew that fukerson was at the top of the list. so this mute any against jackson was not only deeper than it seemed but probably more significant about his standing in the army and out. think, too, about the prospect, had all the army, the general officers, the field officers, had they been as disgusted with jackson in june for some reason as they had been in february. had they indicted a similar complaint to the war department here in richmond, would it have gotten any attention even at the bureaucratic wailing walls here in richmond where pe

i brought -- i brought my brother-in-law, judge tolliver. fran is back there with both hands at work. are there any questions? >> does anyone have any questions? i know voting has your attention. >> just check robert e. lee or vote for robert e. lee and then ask -- yes, sir? oh, you need a ballot. >> if you don't have more questions i'm going to read more limericks. yes, sir? >> the line of reasoning that you introduced about lee being a great e mans parent because he freed the league, and i wonder what you think of the argument that he was an inadvertent e man si pater with causing this great mound of victory over the summer and forces lincoln's hand into launching the emancipation proclamation. by doing that, could you also say lee is an inadvertent emancipat o tshg emancipator. >> lincoln said that everything seemed to be going badly about the war and this was in june when he started going to the war office and asked for paper from the clerk and drafting something that the clerk wondered what he was drafting and lincoln said, everything s

despite his late life bouquets that i mentioned, tolliver was typical, but richard taylor and dick yewel might personify the others. dick and i lore, who you probably know was the brother-in-law of jefferson davis, very, very well connected fellow. son of the president of the united states some years earlier and the brother in law of the confederate states, very well connected. his prose descriptions are probably familiar to every one of you. he described the general vividly. it's really good to read. he compared jackson to wolf and nelson for, quote, his place in the hearts of english speaking peoples and so on. really admired jackson. but -- and this is an episode that is virtually unknown -- shows up in the memoirs of chief of dick and i lore's staff. during the opening phases of valley campaign, when taylor first came in to contact with jackson, he was so unmanned by what appeared to be jackson's in-especiallity tud that he took leave, got on his horse, climbed over the mountain, came to richmond and talked to his brother-in-law the president and said you have got to get rid of jacks