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cohen has been staying and tom arnold said he had some conversations with michael cohen, which tom arnoldgested were much more in depth conversations than michael cohen was willing to admit to. tom arnold has a new show coming out in september on viceland in which he promises to reveal everything he knows about michael cohen. on this program after talking to tom arnold about michael cohen a couple weeks ago, he stayed with us for a discussion about what happened to his former wife and former cast mate roseanne. how did she go from the liberal to the woman who's racist tweet got her fired and got her show canceled by abc. >> so i had roseanne on the show a couple years ago. she was a liberal kind of extreme, a green party candidate. i can't quite remember for president she was thinking about. i would once in a while run into her at a restaurant here or there in l.a. and she was extremely pleasant and it sounded like, you know, she had seen my show. this is years ago. i haven't run into her in the last, i don't know, three or four years. what happened? >> you know, honestly, we got divorced

one funny thing that tom arnold said never call a crazy person crazy. i have mentally health issues, yes. i had. >> sean: had bad had it gotten? >> terrible. as bad as it gets. >> sean: were you ever instituti institutionali institutionalized? >> that's like going to the beach for me. i have been hospitalized several times, yes. >> sean: i love comedians. i watched richard pryor and chris rock and you and everybody. i may be way off base saying this. that the creative genius for comedians, the blessing is their curse. >> being a creative genius -- know i am. anyway. [laughing]. >> sean: understood. >> that part of your psyche or brain is close to the madness. very close. >> sean: when we come back, roseanne opens up emotionally about her struggles with mental illness and more about this controversy as we continue. let's see why people everywhere are upgrading their water filter to zerowater. start with water that has a lot of dissolved solids. pour it through brita's two-stage filter. dissolved solids remain? what if we filter it over and over? (sighing

i mean everybody -- chances are very good, he saw tom arnold, he goes, hey, tom arnold, how you doinga picture, that's that. so sometimes you can overread it. one thing you can't overread though, john, is the "national enquirer's" role in all of this. the "enquirer," was well-known that the "enquirer" would often buy stories and kill them. and obviously they came within target of investigators because of donald trump and pay-offs and michael cohen. what's their role here with mcdougal? are they in the clear now that they're going to allow her to tell her story and publish, you know, five tips by karen mcdougal for better living or whatever they're going to do? >> i mean i don't know about in the clear. i'm not sure that anything that the "enquirer" did was illegal, joe. look, catch and kill, this concept is not exclusive to the "enquirer." if you live in the world of celebrity gossip, in publications of lesser repute of the "national enquirer" and of more repute than "the national enquirer", it is something that people do. it is unseemly and unseedy. usually it doesn't involve though

. >> sean: you seem to have a tough -- i haven't asked you about tom arnold?> did you say do i still love e him? >> sean: decaldid he call you? >> i'm on my fourth one, this one is 16 years. >> sean: he caught you smoking. >> i wore rubber gloves and a hat and i go out in the alley.at >> sean: he didn't smell it. >> no, he didn't know and i lied. on top of all this other stuff. so he opens up the yahoo! and there i am. he goes, because he knew that i would kill him if he made me mad. sweetheart. >> sean: you lied. >> youto lied to me about smoki, didn't you. >> sean: what did you say? here's a question i have, on owl my years on television, recently samantha bee has her show. when bill mar got fired, i'm not in favor of boycotts. i think the american people are fair. >> i do, too. >> sean: american people are good. forget the meed yeah, forget the people that write stuff. >>rg that's why they had my sho, they wanted to see balance. i call it hate-riotism. people want to hear the truth. anything that isn't based on facts and data and pure emotion, that isn't ri

and tom arnold, who spent some time chatting with michael cohen.ell us what he thinks happened to his ex-wife rosea e roseanne, who used to be a liberal. we'll also discuss with david hog the shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school. that's all tomorrow night on "the last word" at 10:00 p.m. "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts right now. >>> tonight, the senate intel committee announces it backs the intelligence community, finding russia did in fact meddle in the 2016 u.s. elections with vladimir putin's approval. and russia had a clear preference for donald trump. >>> also the president tonight promised a home run for his supreme court pick as we learned seven top contenders have now met or spoken w

and tom arnold, who spent some time chatting with michael cohen. he'll tell us what he thinks happened to his ex-wife rosea e roseanne, who used to be a liberal. we'll also discuss with david hog the shooting at marjory stoneman douglas high school. that's all tomorrow night on "the last word" at 10:00 p.m. "the 11th hour with brian williams" starts right now. >>> tonight, the senate intel committee announces it backs the intelligence community, finding russia did in fact meddle in the 2016 u.s. elections with vladimir putin's approval. and russia had a clear preference for donald trump. >>> also the president tonight promised a home run for his supreme court pick as we learned seven top contenders have now met or spoken with trump. >>> and scott pruitt denies a new report he asked the president to fire jeff sessions and make him attorney general. it's yet another damaging headline for the epa chief and the white house as "the 11th hour" gets under way on a tuesday night. >>> good evening once again from our nbc news headquarters here in new york.

i wouldn't have him do an interview with george stephanopoulos, i wouldn't be on chatting with tom arnold and all these other folks. what i would do have very private conversations with the united states attorney's office, talk to them about what i know. and i wouldn't seem so eager to flip. you know, when you're in any kind of negotiation, whether you're trying to negotiate to sell a car or trying to negotiate to get a date with somebody, you don't want to seem too eager. >> is this maybe just about his reputation, or he sees himself in the media, you know -- quite honestly, i hate to say this, as appearing to be donald trump's lackey and he just does not want that being his legacy? >> you know what i would tell him, if he told me that, don, if he told me, if i was his lawyer, and he said, i'm concerned about my legacy, i would tell him, get over yourself, man, you're looking at time in federal prison, that's way more important than your legacy or how you appear on tv, you'll write a book and do a book tour later, for right now we need to get you out of this problem and anything else is

then, tom arnold, who appears to want to weigh in on everything these days said this, this is sort ofof the kind of heat that ben got during this whole exchange. "just make sure that none of these little f-ers jumps on my back. their hair polars. ben shapiro looks sound prepubescent but technically a man so for the purposes of brawl and the kicks headed towards his teeth and face, he shall be deemed all men." >> the fact that he is considered a member of good standing in hollywood is pretty incredible. again, what this is really about, it wouldn't matter if this were me. if he tweeted about you, tweeted about anybody on fox news, anyone who is perceived to be of the right, anyone who is considered to be conservative outside of people who endorse democrats in 2018, he would've been ratiod on the left, he would've had to delete the twee tweet. frankly, i'm getting a little bit use to considering everybody on the left thinks that everyone who is not on the left is a racist, sexist, bigoted homophobe. >> martha: cc that you often have people from hollywood who listen to you. my guess is t